The SFWA ghosted Patrick

[quasi101]

The SWFA paid a lawyer $5k to somehow convince a judge that communications and records on one individual within a limited period of time was somehow too broad of an ask. They're terrified of whatever went on behind the scenes there coming out.

It was a bad ruling , but that shit happens. Unlike Rick I know when to pick my battles. I was going to go for round two in santa clara this month but the payments were coming in already. He ended up having to pay for jerry's time anyway lol.

 

[quasi101]

@quasi101 not sure if you're able to speak to this, if you're not inclined don't sweat it

I don't really know that much more I just have some extra data to extrapolate from. The SFWA was involved but its likely much less than you're assuming. THis was all fatso. THe complaint read just like shit he'd complain about. The call to stavros that was the "i...don't know the proper protocol" all that shit was him. This was his lawsuit. how they paid him and then the attorneys I have no idea, but the creative force behind the shenanigans were him.

 

[Imager]

This was his lawsuit. how they paid him and then the attorneys I have no idea, but the creative force behind the shenanigans were him.

No wonder it was a failure by every measurement.

 

[guest]

@PorqueDealer I think we're mostly on the same page here, but given the SFWA running scared I'm going to go full retard and double down on the hypotheses that some sort of impropriety occurred within the love triangle of the SFWA, Brinton's law firm, and Patrick in the nexus (thanks for this word Jackie, I like it) of direct financial transactions and communications between SFWA <--> Brinton + Co.

My reasoning is as follows:

Here is a link to the SFWA legal fund overview, I don't recall when the lolsuit was initially filed so I arbitrarily grabbed an archived link from 2020, the verbiage doesn't appear to have changed since this on the live webpage today: [URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20200401125248/https://www.sfwa.org/about/benevolent-funds/legal-fund/[/URL]

Here's a screenshot of section 1:

1.1 states that yeah, it can give loans to members... 1.2 states it can fund legal action in the name of the SFWA... but check out 1.3.

1.3: "To fund or contribute to the funding of court actions brought by others in issues which are of importance to SFWA's members and the business of writing and which may help to raise SFWA's profile as a pro-active writers' organization."

...this HAS to be the clause under which Patrick got the lolsuit funded. And the language regarding HOW funds may be dispersed is murkier than stealthygeek's toilet.

Patrick didn't get a loan from the SFWA, he ain't paying them anything back. And if the OP post is believed to be from Nikki, check out this language: "This lawsuit was funded by a professional organization Patrick is a member of."

I also believe it's possible Pat murdered Bernell so take all this with a shaker full of salt.

 

[NoBacon]

Can u FOIA a charity

 

[quasi101]

section 1.3.....1.3.... gpa.....

 

[quasi101]

Can u FOIA a charity

no idea, but you could sue them for damages if you were a member. Or report them to the ir[redacted per request by kiwifarms]

 

[guest]

I don't really know that much more I just have some extra data to extrapolate from. The SFWA was involved but its likely much less than you're assuming. THis was all fatso. THe complaint read just like shit he'd complain about. The call to stavros that was the "i...don't know the proper protocol" all that shit was him. This was his lawsuit. how they paid him and then the attorneys I have no idea, but the creative force behind the shenanigans were him.

Oh man I forgot about Patrick kool-aid manning his way into that Zoom court session!

 

[NoBacon]

no idea, but you could sue them for damages if you were a member. Or report them to the ir[redacted per request by kiwifarms]

That guy on Reddit who isn’t me already reported their suspicions to the IRS a long time ago. I wonder if they looked into it.

Not even sure why I have to say it was the guy on Reddit that isn’t me, it’s a very real concern and I’m encouraged to do so as a good citizen.

 

[NoBacon]

 

[Farmer Brown]

It was a bad ruling , but that shit happens. Unlike Rick I know when to pick my battles. I was going to go for round two in santa clara this month but the payments were coming in already. He ended up having to pay for jerry's time anyway lol.

May I ask how you found your lawyers?

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

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Maybe you can let that Twitter user know that the IRS would consider money given to someone for legal fees a gift and would also consider it taxable. (Taxable for the receiver, e.g. the Pigman)

Reporting is easy and anonymous: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/how-do-you-report-suspected-tax-fraud-activity

Sometimes they'll even give the reporter a reward!

 

[guest]

May I ask how you found your lawyers?

Yeah I'm curious about this as well, hopefully I never need one but you had sharks

 

[NoBacon]

Maybe you can let that Twitter user know that the IRS would consider money given to someone for legal fees a gift and would also consider it taxable. (Taxable for the receiver, e.g. the Pigman)

Reporting is easy and anonymous: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/how-do-you-report-suspected-tax-fraud-activity

Sometimes they'll even give the reporter a reward!

 

[quasi101]

May I ask how you found your lawyers?

I only had a few days. Piece of shit cloudflare was going to turn over my data. Here's the email i get on

Wed, Apr 7, 2021

To Whom It May Concern:

We received the attached subpoena regarding a domain(s) managed through your Cloudflare account.

The subpoena requires us to provide information in our systems related to these websites. We have determined that this is a valid subpoena, and we are required to provide the requested information. In accordance with our Privacy Policy, we are informing you before we provide any of the requested subscriber information.

We plan to turn over documents in response to the subpoena unless you intervene in the case within one (1) week of the date of this notice. Please know that removing or deleting content will not halt this process. If you plan to intervene in this process, we would suggest that you contact local counsel at your earliest convenience.

Regards,

Cloudflare Legal Department

We have determined that this is a valid subpoena

have you???

we are required to provide the requested information

Actually you're not.


So I had to find an attorney, retain them, explain the situation and have them file a notice to cloudflare to not release any information. That subpoena was sent on Feb 12, so they waited two months to give me a heads up.

So I didn't have much time. As soon as I received that I had to start researching my options. Eventually I came to understanding that I need a motion to quash. I then researched where I was allowed to quash a subpoena and in what jurisdiction or venue. I knew Wisconsin didn't have anti-slapp and was likely not friendly. Turned out , luckily that you can quash in the county where the subpeona was served on. I figured California had better laws for this so I searched for a bit to see how i could get attorneys fees back if possible. If I couldn't I'd have just let the subpeona go through. Cloudflare didn't have my financial information and only had a protonmail address and maybe an ip when i didn't use a vpn or something. But since i could get my fees back, it wasn't worth the risk of them going through that task. At this point I had no idea how much money was backing him.

Once i found the statute,

https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/code-of-civil-procedure/ccp-sect-1987-2/

I knew if the quash went through it would apply

(c) If a motion is filed under Section 1987.1 for an order to quash or modify a subpoena from a court of this state for personally identifying information, as defined in subdivision (b) of Section 1798.79.8 of the Civil Code, for use in an action pending in another state, territory, or district of the United States, or in a foreign nation, and that subpoena has been served on any Internet service provider, or on the provider of any other interactive computer service, as defined in Section 230(f)(2) of Title 47 of the United States Code, if the moving party prevails, and if the underlying action arises from the moving party's exercise of free speech rights on the Internet and the respondent has failed to make a prima facie showing of a cause of action, the court shall award the amount of the reasonable expenses incurred in making the motion, including reasonable attorney's fees.

This took me about 2 days to research though so I only had 5. I searched online for various firms with keywords around "quash subpeona" and then added that specific statute. i wanted someone familiar with foreign subpoenas and then hopefully also familiar with the sanctions. I called about 5 or 6. Only two called me back. One was just like a mayr single person firm. The other was Kronenberg's firm. Once I talked to Jeff he knew his shit and mentioned the krinsky stuff so I knew he had dealt with this before.


Maybe I got lucky. If I had more time and could do it differently i'd search various cases in the SF portal to find quashes that succeeded and which firms were successful.

 

[guest]

In light of @quasi101's eludication I'm revising my hypothesis that Patrick was merely a puppet between Rambo and Resto in the lolsuit fiasco; Pat was clearly highly involved and a driving force.

As of now the rest of the theory stands, SFWA got themselves involved in some funky stuff... and I still believe it's possible, even likely, Pat didn't know he could appeal because Resto directly asked the SFWA if they had the appetite.

Irregardless...

#Patwatch2024 rip bozo thx 4 paying the rent

 

[quasi101]

i also figured that Jeff's 650/hour wouldn't last long in SF if he wasn't good. Their firm didn't seem to be doing simple dmv shit. It was first amendment con-law shit. So I rolled the dice but it was a calculated gamble.

 

[quasi101]

They had this as case studies as well

Motions To Quash Subpoenas Lawyers | Kronenberger Rosenfeld

We litigate motions to quash subpoenas, representing litigants as well as third-party subpoena recipients, in federal and state courts across the country.

kr.law

• Represented John Doe in a motion to quash subpoena seeking information about the owner of a Twitter account.
• Represented a client in an appeal of a motion to quash a subpoena issued pursuant to the federal foreign discovery statute (28 U.S.C. §1782).
• Advised an anonymous blogger who successfully quashed a subpoena seeking his/her identity, issued by a reality TV personality unhappy about negative blog postings.

 

[guest]

I only had a few days. Piece of shit cloudflare was going to turn over my data. Here's the email i get on







have you???



Actually you're not.


So I had to find an attorney, retain them, explain the situation and have them file a notice to cloudflare to not release any information. That subpoena was sent on Feb 12, so they waited two months to give me a heads up.

So I didn't have much time. As soon as I received that I had to start researching my options. Eventually I came to understanding that I need a motion to quash. I then researched where I was allowed to quash a subpoena and in what jurisdiction or venue. I knew Wisconsin didn't have anti-slapp and was likely not friendly. Turned out , luckily that you can quash in the county where the subpeona was served on. I figured California had better laws for this so I searched for a bit to see how i could get attorneys fees back if possible. If I couldn't I'd have just let the subpeona go through. Cloudflare didn't have my financial information and only had a protonmail address and maybe an ip when i didn't use a vpn or something. But since i could get my fees back, it wasn't worth the risk of them going through that task. At this point I had no idea how much money was backing him.

Once i found the statute,
[URL unfurl="true"]https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/code-of-civil-procedure/ccp-sect-1987-2/[/URL]

I knew if the quash went through it would apply




This took me about 2 days to research though so I only had 5. I searched online for various firms with keywords around "quash subpeona" and then added that specific statute. i wanted someone familiar with foreign subpoenas and then hopefully also familiar with the sanctions. I called about 5 or 6. Only two called me back. One was just like a mayr single person firm. The other was Kronenberg's firm. Once I talked to Jeff he knew his shit and mentioned the krinsky stuff so I knew he had dealt with this before.


Maybe I got lucky. If I had more time and could do it differently i'd search various cases in the SF portal to find quashes that succeeded and which firms were successful.

Awesome -- thanks dude

 

[CompoundBasement]

Oh man I forgot about Patrick kool-aid manning his way into that Zoom court session!

Is there still video of this? I haven't seen it.