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I'll just leave this here, then.

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Prove it.
My challenge to you all remains the same as it has always been. Name one kid, just one, that Samuel R. Delany has abused. That's it. And I'll come over to your side.
Citing his fiction doesn't count. Because, you know, that's FICTION.
NAMBLA statement? We already agree on that one. Delany needs to denounce and retract that one.
What I want is a NAME. Something like Anthony Rapp naming Kevin Spacey. Come on. There must be somebody who's come forward that you gadflies can sniff out.

I triple-dog dare ya!
I triple-dog dare you to kiss this pedo ghoul on the mouth.
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NormsGhost

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You are "STILL waiting" for evidence that is not necessary for us to prove our conclusion. According to your own standards, the mere espousal of beliefs that you consider to be evil is enough for a person to be uninvited, banned, denounced, etc. For example, it would be unnecessary for one to find examples of a self-admitted Nazi, who hates Jews, beating up Jews in order for that person to be considered a Nazi that must, according to your standards, be denounced. Likewise, it is unnecessary to for someone to find examples of a self-admitted pedophile, who wants to legalize child rape, raping children. The fact that he is an outspoken supporter of child rape and its legalization is in itself enough for you to denounce that person for the same reason you denounce all the right wing/republican/christian/etc people.

I know you're being insincere at this point, but as a former edgy atheist who is more than 20 years younger than you, it's fun to chop apart your retarded thought processes.
Bullshit. Let's bury this "child rape" thing one once and for all. You use the word "rape" three times in your argument. @Sue Lightning makes the same erroneous accusation. "Child rape advocate" she calls Delany. I disagree. Delany was abused as a boy by an older man, and somehow didn't find it unpleasant, so now he apparently believes in a gay version of Finch and Stiffler's mom in American Pie. I frankly disagree with this and think Delany is full of shit. But he's got a limited (but troublesome) point in that you can't rape the willing. So no, Delany isn't a "rape advocate," and you're an idiot each time you repeat that lie. I know that's a nuanced argument, and you people are incapable of comprehending nuance because you've deliberately supplanted brain-matter for shit for so long you can't think straight. Or at all. From now on, any of you that say "Delany rape advocate" are out of this debate (such as you are even capable of debating) as far as I give a damn.
 

Kim_Jong_Poon_

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Bullshit. Let's bury this "child rape" thing one once and for all. You use the word "rape" three times in your argument. @Sue Lightning makes the same erroneous accusation. "Child rape advocate" she calls Delany. I disagree. Delany was abused as a boy by an older man, and somehow didn't find it unpleasant, so now he apparently believes in a gay version of Finch and Stiffler's mom in American Pie. I frankly disagree with this and think Delany is full of shit. But he's got a limited (but troublesome) point in that you can't rape the willing. So no, Delany isn't a "rape advocate," and you're an idiot each time you repeat that lie.
Why do you find it troublesome?
 

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Bullshit. Let's bury this "child rape" thing one once and for all. You use the word "rape" three times in your argument. @Sue Lightning makes the same erroneous accusation. "Child rape advocate" she calls Delany. I disagree. Delany was abused as a boy by an older man, and somehow didn't find it unpleasant, so now he apparently believes in a gay version of Finch and Stiffler's mom in American Pie. I frankly disagree with this and think Delany is full of shit. But he's got a limited (but troublesome) point in that you can't rape the willing. So no, Delany isn't a "rape advocate," and you're an idiot each time you repeat that lie. I know that's a nuanced argument, and you people are incapable of comprehending nuance because you've deliberately supplanted brain-matter for shit for so long you can't think straight. Or at all. From now on, any of you that say "Delany rape advocate" are out of this debate (such as you are even capable of debating) as far as I give a damn.
So ole child rape hildy here thinks 6 year old can consent to sex with a grown man.
Why do we argue with this pedophile? He's beyond redemption and I'm glad he's a childless loser with a barren pig of a wife.
If some nigger caves his head in or some random reddit guy ruins his life. Well. I'll smile.
 

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Bullshit. Let's bury this "child rape" thing one once and for all. You use the word "rape" three times in your argument. @Sue Lightning makes the same erroneous accusation. "Child rape advocate" she calls Delany. I disagree. Delany was abused as a boy by an older man, and somehow didn't find it unpleasant, so now he apparently believes in a gay version of Finch and Stiffler's mom in American Pie. I frankly disagree with this and think Delany is full of shit. But he's got a limited (but troublesome) point in that you can't rape the willing. So no, Delany isn't a "rape advocate," and you're an idiot each time you repeat that lie. I know that's a nuanced argument, and you people are incapable of comprehending nuance because you've deliberately supplanted brain-matter for shit for so long you can't think straight. Or at all. From now on, any of you that say "Delany rape advocate" are out of this debate (such as you are even capable of debating) as far as I give a damn.
I stopped reading after the first typo, "one once". Ever hear of spell check?

Switching the topic to something more nuanced and intellectually stimulating, does your wife have fistulas that allow shit juice to tunnel directly into her vagina from her ass? Do you think it's rad to get your cock covered in shit while having vaginal sex?
 

Prison Enjoyer

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I don't know why people are arguing here. Eric has been extremely consistent with his position on this issue since he first started fighting with Boomia all those months ago.

Hildy views all these questions around unethical activities purely through a lens on the direct effect (or lack of) they have on a victim. It's all about whether a person's pursuits (whether they be anything from trolling or pedophilia) create a knowing victim or not. Morals have nothing to do with it. Eric has not defended child rape; most people here are misinterpreting him on this. He's merely saying that "If a crime is victimless, then what is the cause for judgement? There is simply no victim, nobody was harmed so therefore it's perfectly ok." Any action that creates a knowing victim is automatically worse than a crime that doesn't.

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" basically.



A pedophile jerking off in his car while watching a playground of toddlers with binoculars? Well, if none of the kids see him, no victim will have been created and everyone will go home just the same. ✅ Hildy-approved!

Sam Delaney collecting dozens of books of photos of pre-pubescent to preteen boys in swimsuits & in the nude to use as spank material? Well, most of those titles (based on what Delaney has shown off himself and then x-posted here) are pics from european nudist colonies in the 1970s, photos taken for medical reasons (at the time), and pictures of child models from swimwear catalogues. No victims were created by taking those pictures, no kids faced any harm. ✅ Hildy-approved!

Bullying someone with mean words on Twitter? Vandalizing an online obituary comments section? Leaving fake 1-star book reviews? Those all create direct victims who are negatively impacted by your chosen actions. You have taken a direct action which has caused direct harm.
❌❌❌ Ethically worse than any victimless crime in Hildy's eyes. Enjoy prison.

It's as simple as that. This is why he keeps asking for us to name a direct rape victim of Delaney's. In Hildy's eyes, that's the only unethical thing that Delaney could have done. He sees no problem with the jerking to child porn, pedophilia advocacy, and constant lust for children. No direct victims created so it's all nice and cheery. So even though none of us call Delaney a convicted molester or anything Eric just cannot drop this point as he simply cannot imagine judging someone for engaging in a victimless activity like jerking off to young boy swimsuit pics. If you tell Pat he's "stupid" though you're morally worse though as you're directly causing him emotional harm.

Take this as you will: This line of leftist thinking about 'victimless crimes' was popularized in '60s counterculture (predecessor to hildy-type atheists) and leftist academia by none other than Allen Ginsberg. A pedophile and NAMBLA member.
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Prison Enjoyer

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Level-headed guy, that Delaney. This book is just wonderful, nothing to judge about it at all.

I just hope Delaney never cut in a line or tailgated somebody because those would both be creating several direct victims unlike the good virtuous celibate pedophiles who don't rape kids

(they're all good as long as they resist their urges, then there's nothing wrong with them, their porn habits, or their pedo advocacy. Big brain atheist hildy knows better than us mere mortals on this)
 
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I don't know why people are arguing here. Eric has been extremely consistent with his position on this issue since he first started fighting with Boomia all those months ago.

Hildy views all these questions around unethical activities purely through a lens on the direct effect (or lack of) they have on a victim. It's all about whether a person's pursuits (whether they be anything from trolling or pedophilia) create a knowing victim or not. Morals have nothing to do with it. Eric has not defended child rape; most people here are misinterpreting him on this. He's merely saying that [SIZE=15px]"If a crime is victimless, then what is the cause for judgement? There is simply no victim, nobody was harmed so therefore it's perfectly ok."[/SIZE] Any action that creates a knowing victim is automatically worse than a crime that doesn't.

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" basically.



A pedophile jerking off in his car while watching a playground of toddlers with binoculars? Well, if none of the kids see him, no victim will have been created and everyone will go home just the same. ✅ Hildy-approved!

Sam Delaney collecting dozens of books of photos of pre-pubescent to preteen boys in swimsuits & in the nude to use as spank material? Well, most of those titles (based on what Delaney has shown off himself and then x-posted here) are pics from european nudist colonies in the 1970s, photos taken for medical reasons (at the time), and pictures of child models from swimwear catalogues. No victims were created by taking those pictures, no kids faced any harm. ✅ Hildy-approved!

Bullying someone with mean words on Twitter? Vandalizing an online obituary comments section? Leaving fake 1-star book reviews? Those all create direct victims who are negatively impacted by your chosen actions. You have taken a direct action which has caused direct harm.
❌❌❌ Ethically worse than any victimless crime in Hildy's eyes. Enjoy prison.

It's as simple as that. This is why he keeps asking for us to name a direct rape victim of Delaney's. In Hildy's eyes, that's the only unethical thing that Delaney could have done. He sees no problem with the jerking to child porn, pedophilia advocacy, and constant lust for children. No direct victims created so it's all nice and cheery. So even though none of us call Delaney a convicted molester or anything Eric just cannot drop this point as he simply cannot imagine judging someone for engaging in a victimless activity like jerking off to young boy swimsuit pics. If you tell Pat he's "stupid" though you're morally worse though as you're directly causing him emotional harm.

Take this as you will: This line of leftist thinking about 'victimless crimes' was popularized in '60s counterculture (predecessor to hildy-type atheists) and leftist academia by none other than Allen Ginsberg. A pedophile and NAMBLA member.
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Do you agree with all this @NormsGhost
 

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Bullshit. Let's bury this "child rape" thing one once and for all. You use the word "rape" three times in your argument. @Sue Lightning makes the same erroneous accusation. "Child rape advocate" she calls Delany. I disagree. Delany was abused as a boy by an older man, and somehow didn't find it unpleasant, so now he apparently believes in a gay version of Finch and Stiffler's mom in American Pie. I frankly disagree with this and think Delany is full of shit. But he's got a limited (but troublesome) point in that you can't rape the willing. So no, Delany isn't a "rape advocate," and you're an idiot each time you repeat that lie. I know that's a nuanced argument, and you people are incapable of comprehending nuance because you've deliberately supplanted brain-matter for shit for so long you can't think straight. Or at all. From now on, any of you that say "Delany rape advocate" are out of this debate (such as you are even capable of debating) as far as I give a damn.
It’s not that we don’t get the nuance. Statutory rape typically involves willing participants, but society has still deemed it rape. You are a bad (or sick) guy!
 

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I don't know why people are arguing here. Eric has been extremely consistent with his position on this issue since he first started fighting with Boomia all those months ago.

Hildy views all these questions around unethical activities purely through a lens on the direct effect (or lack of) they have on a victim. It's all about whether a person's pursuits (whether they be anything from trolling or pedophilia) create a knowing victim or not. Morals have nothing to do with it. Eric has not defended child rape; most people here are misinterpreting him on this. He's merely saying that "If a crime is victimless, then what is the cause for judgement? There is simply no victim, nobody was harmed so therefore it's perfectly ok." Any action that creates a knowing victim is automatically worse than a crime that doesn't.

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" basically.



A pedophile jerking off in his car while watching a playground of toddlers with binoculars? Well, if none of the kids see him, no victim will have been created and everyone will go home just the same. ✅ Hildy-approved!

Sam Delaney collecting dozens of books of photos of pre-pubescent to preteen boys in swimsuits & in the nude to use as spank material? Well, most of those titles (based on what Delaney has shown off himself and then x-posted here) are pics from european nudist colonies in the 1970s, photos taken for medical reasons (at the time), and pictures of child models from swimwear catalogues. No victims were created by taking those pictures, no kids faced any harm. ✅ Hildy-approved!

Bullying someone with mean words on Twitter? Vandalizing an online obituary comments section? Leaving fake 1-star book reviews? Those all create direct victims who are negatively impacted by your chosen actions. You have taken a direct action which has caused direct harm.
❌❌❌ Ethically worse than any victimless crime in Hildy's eyes. Enjoy prison.

It's as simple as that. This is why he keeps asking for us to name a direct rape victim of Delaney's. In Hildy's eyes, that's the only unethical thing that Delaney could have done. He sees no problem with the jerking to child porn, pedophilia advocacy, and constant lust for children. No direct victims created so it's all nice and cheery. So even though none of us call Delaney a convicted molester or anything Eric just cannot drop this point as he simply cannot imagine judging someone for engaging in a victimless activity like jerking off to young boy swimsuit pics. If you tell Pat he's "stupid" though you're morally worse though as you're directly causing him emotional harm.

Take this as you will: This line of leftist thinking about 'victimless crimes' was popularized in '60s counterculture (predecessor to hildy-type atheists) and leftist academia by none other than Allen Ginsberg. A pedophile and NAMBLA member.
1024px-Allen_Ginsberg_1979_-_cropped.jpg

Ginsburg and Burroughs are tremendous sex creeps, one of their “shared” teen boy victims wrote about how badly the experience fucked him up. No doubt Delaney feverishly masturbated while reading about how traumatic it was for the guy.
 
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