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Fair. I never even read Kerouac.
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I'll just leave this here, then.
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Pat put you on the pay no mind list. You’re bald and your beard (heh
) is disgusting looking.
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Faggot pedo.
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Pseudo intellectual moron.
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You also said that he (Delany) has a point, and that he isn't a rape advocate, even though he clearly is or has been. So you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
He also has images of exploited naked kids at his apartment; what's the justification for that?
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You said
t he's got a limited (but troublesome) point in that you can't rape the willing. So no, Delany isn't a "rape advocate
You said he has a point that statuary rape isn't real. That's what YOU said. Do you know what your own words mean?
Let's find out if you believe that, I'll start tonight
t he's got a limited (but troublesome) point in that you can't rape the willing. So no, Delany isn't a "rape advocate
You said he has a point that statuary rape isn't real. That's what YOU said. Do you know what your own words mean?
Let's find out if you believe that, I'll start tonight
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Ah, if only wealth was tied to intelligence. So true. Some complete idiots are rich, and many in the upper 2% in terms of intelligence are not quite millionaires.
I can tell you this much - I may not be filthy rich, but I'm far from poor. I have a middle-income white-collar job, a decently sized retirement savings, and a damn fine house in an excellent neighborhood. I do NOT work retail. The last time I worked retail, The Matrix had just been released.
Elon? He's a mixed bag. I don't like him, but I don't hate him the way Patrick does. Certainly he's run Twitter/X into the ground, and you have to be an unbelievably clueless fool to do something like that. On the other hand, Space X? Very cool. Electric cars? Awesome. Pretty much Elon just lucked into his money with selling PayPal to Ebay.
Most rich people are lucky, not smart.
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Do you stock shelves or assist the customers?
I’ll Venmo you $500 if you upload a copy of your resume here. 
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There isn't a justification. Look, if you're laboring under the delusion that I agree with Delany on everything, or always defend him, you're wasting your time. I have several axes to grind with the man. I've called on him to retract his NAMBLA shit (not that he will or knows/cares who I am). But he is a key pioneer in sci-fi (Hogg and Nest of Spiders excepted). All I'm saying is that, without a victim of his, his Grandmaster status should be left alone. And I also insist that he, as the lone living, non-incarcerated example of anything pederast-related, is not enough to condemn all of SFWA, and the sci-fi community with it.
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Guess again.This dude works at Target and thinks Elon Musk is dumb
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With what?
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Your wife tries to sell BJ’s and you work at Sam’s Club.Guess again.
Answer the question, do you stock shelves or assist the customers?
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He’s too ugly and smells so bad that they don’t let him work the registers.
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@NormsGhost said on Twitter once that jerking off with children on your mind was not acceptable, IIRC. A virtuous pedophile wouldn't do that. A virtuous pedophile doesn't act on urges and doesn't even give in to fantasies through masturbation... No way a person like that exists. Hildy made a pointless argument by saying such a fiction was our moral superior. It's just his version of being an edgelord.I don't know why people are arguing here. Eric has been extremely consistent with his position on this issue since he first started fighting with Boomia all those months ago.
Hildy views all these questions around unethical activities purely through a lens on the direct effect (or lack of) they have on a victim. It's all about whether a person's pursuits (whether they be anything from trolling or pedophilia) create a knowing victim or not. Morals have nothing to do with it. Eric has not defended child rape; most people here are misinterpreting him on this. He's merely saying that "If a crime is victimless, then what is the cause for judgement? There is simply no victim, nobody was harmed so therefore it's perfectly ok." Any action that creates a knowing victim is automatically worse than a crime that doesn't.
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" basically.
A pedophile jerking off in his car while watching a playground of toddlers with binoculars? Well, if none of the kids see him, no victim will have been created and everyone will go home just the same.Hildy-approved!
Sam Delaney collecting dozens of books of photos of pre-pubescent to preteen boys in swimsuits & in the nude to use as spank material? Well, most of those titles (based on what Delaney has shown off himself and then x-posted here) are pics from european nudist colonies in the 1970s, photos taken for medical reasons (at the time), and pictures of child models from swimwear catalogues. No victims were created by taking those pictures, no kids faced any harm.
Bullying someone with mean words on Twitter? Vandalizing an online obituary comments section? Leaving fake 1-star book reviews? Those all create direct victims who are negatively impacted by your chosen actions. You have taken a direct action which has caused direct harm.
Ethically worse than any victimless crime in Hildy's eyes. Enjoy prison.
It's as simple as that. This is why he keeps asking for us to name a direct rape victim of Delaney's. In Hildy's eyes, that's the only unethical thing that Delaney could have done. He sees no problem with the jerking to child porn, pedophilia advocacy, and constant lust for children. No direct victims created so it's all nice and cheery. So even though none of us call Delaney a convicted molester or anything Eric just cannot drop this point as he simply cannot imagine judging someone for engaging in a victimless activity like jerking off to young boy swimsuit pics. If you tell Pat he's "stupid" though you're morally worse though as you're directly causing him emotional harm.
Take this as you will: This line of leftist thinking about 'victimless crimes' was popularized in '60s counterculture (predecessor to hildy-type atheists) and leftist academia by none other than Allen Ginsberg. A pedophile and NAMBLA member.
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You don't think possessing naked images of kids is disqualifying?
No one here has seriously claimed that all the members of the SFWA are pedos. Only that using member fees to fund legal defenses of high-ranking members accused of pedophilia, and lawsuits to stifle our constitutional right to free speech is abhorrent and a misuse of funds for an organization that holds a charity status.
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Why should I take seriously the moral arguments of either 1) a thief, or 2) someone who is stupid enough to assume the identity of a thief?
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Do you stock shelves or help the customers? Answer the question you fucking loser.
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Because he's a better person than you are, faggot.