I'll just leave this here, then.

[Sue Lightning]

STILL waiting.

Your burden of proof is not going to be met because it is an impossible standard. Don’t pretend to argue in good faith. And don’t pretend if this burden of proof were met your mind would change.

“Still waiting!”

 

[NormsGhost]

You know the courts keep the names of child sex abuse victims private to protect their identity, right?

The victims, yes. If the victim so chooses. But not the perpetrator. That becomes public record. Is there such a public record of Delany being so accused? That would qualify as proof.

 

[Sue Lightning]

The victims, yes. If the victim so chooses. But not the perpetrator. That becomes public record. Is there such a public record of Delany being so accused? That would qualify as proof.

He wrote an article praising NAMBLA. He wrote child rape fantasies. What the fuck more could you need.

 

[Sue Lightning]

The victims, yes. If the victim so chooses. But not the perpetrator. That becomes public record. Is there such a public record of Delany being so accused? That would qualify as proof.

Would you ever write an article praising NAMBLA? I assume not, right? Now ask yourself why you wouldn’t. Then ask yourself why Delaney would.

 

[Sue Lightning]

@NormsGhost you are obviously not familiar with NAMBLA and the documentary surrounding them (linger longer.) These people don’t just believe their tenants but act on them. Why wouldn’t they? NAMBLA says pedophilia is ok. NAMBLA teaches you boys just want to be loved by men and put out signs to attract them. Those who are sexually abused often repeat the cycle.

Now here you have a guy who was sexually abused. Who writes child rape fantasies. And advocates for NAMBLA. In what world is this guy not raping children. The organization he praises he does so specifically for its pedophilic advocation. And refer back to their teachings about how it isn’t wrong. Why wouldn’t he offend? He doesn’t think its wrong obviously.

but this is a stretch to you. A guy who self admits as a pedophile is a pedophile. What world are you living in, seriously.

 

[guest]

tenants

Nice tenants, stupit

 

[NormsGhost]

I notice you didn't address my comments on writing spank porn for pedos being an "active" act that hurts people.

That, at least, is half an effort at an argument. Which is more than these other flailing fish out of water can manage.
Look, I don't know the line between transgressive fiction and porn. But I regard Hogg as one of the worst books of all time. I'm right there with you when you say that should never have been written. But did it cause active harm? I don't think so, because it's way too disgusting to even qualify as porn. I don't think anybody could find Hogg sexually arousing. Maybe that was Delany's point. Who knows?
But again, I give you credit for at least trying and not doing the crybaby shit everybody else is doing.

 

[Sue Lightning]

@NormsGhost once again, it is IMPOSSIBLE for you to backtrack or retract on anything. You can’t just say he’s a pedophile and dangerous because that would be “giving us a win.” It’s not. It’s calling a spade for a spade…(KNOCK IT OFF AWOGHT)

I could pull up video evidence of Delaney raping a child now and you wouldn’t give a fuck.

 

[Sue Lightning]

That, at least, is half an effort at an argument. Which is more than these other flailing fish out of water can manage.
Look, I don't know the line between transgressive fiction and porn. But I regard Hogg as one of the worst books of all time. I'm right there with you when you say that should never have been written. But did it cause active harm? I don't think so, because it's way too disgusting to even qualify as porn. I don't think anybody could find Hogg sexually arousing. Maybe that was Delany's point. Who knows?
But again, I give you credit for at least trying and not doing the crybaby shit everybody else is doing.

HOW ABOUT RESPONDING TO MY POINTS you fucking pedo? You’ll do anything but actually engage in any of what i’m saying because EVERYTHING i’m saying is completely fucking valid. Now keep your fingers stuck in your ass and ears going lalalala and believing that makes you smarter.

 

[NormsGhost]

“Someone can not be a pedophile just by writing about child rape fantasies.” But if i write about nigger killing fantasies that makes me a racist, correct?

By that logic, Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel "Uncle Tom's Cabin" qualifies her as a racist. Right?

 

[guest]

STILL waiting.

I'm still waiting for ONE atheist to tell me what happened before the Big Bang. Can't do it? Haha checkmate atheist you're going to hell (You were going there anyway for being a pedophile)

 

[Sue Lightning]

By that logic, Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel "Uncle Tom's Cabin" qualifies her as a racist. Right?

NO…WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

 

[NormsGhost]

“Show me Delaney supported NAMBLA and i’ll come to your side.” Well we did.

When did I ever say that? Come on. At least quote me accurately.

 

[Sue Lightning]

By that logic, Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel "Uncle Tom's Cabin" qualifies her as a racist. Right?

I’m fucking floored. Are you an actual fucking retard? Ok. You want me to improve your fake nuanced take??? Lolita. The book Lolita. Also about pedophilia and written from the perspective of a dude justifying those acts. But its MEANT to underlying say “This is abhorrent and his justifications are just justifications for child abuse.”

Delaney is not writing some nuanced commentary. He’s not writing about societal issues. It’s CHILD RAPE FANTASIES. And you fucking compared that to the slavery book? Are you out of your mind? Everything you say digs you deeper. Just give up.

 

[NormsGhost]

NO…WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

Never read it, huh? I'm not surprised. It's a novel about white racists killing black people.

 

[Sue Lightning]

When did I ever say that? Come on. At least quote me accurately.

“I can only imagine what the burden of proof was BEFORE all this.”

Don’t cherry pick dummy. I don’t know what the hell you did before 4 months ago.

 

[NormsGhost]

I’m fucking floored. Are you an actual fucking retard? Ok. You want me to improve your fake nuanced take??? Lolita. The book Lolita. Also about pedophilia and written from the perspective of a dude justifying those acts. But its MEANT to underlying say “This is abhorrent and his justifications are just justifications for child abuse.”

Delaney is not writing some nuanced commentary. He’s not writing about societal issues. It’s CHILD RAPE FANTASIES. And you fucking compared that to the slavery book? Are you out of your mind? Everything you say digs you deeper. Just give up.

B-O-O H-O-O. STILL waiting.

 

[Sue Lightning]

Never read it, huh? I'm not surprised. It's a novel about white racists killing black people.

What the fuck does that have to do with a novel WRITTEN BY SOMEONE IN NAMBLA that is NOT a societal critique or metaphor and is just a CHILD SEX FANTASY BOOK.

 

[NormsGhost]

“I can only imagine what the burden of proof was BEFORE all this.”

Don’t cherry pick dummy. I don’t know what the hell you did before 4 months ago.

You don't know what the hell I did four MINUTES ago.

 

[guest]

When did I ever say that? Come on. At least quote me accurately.

Of all the hats available you chose the most assholeish and pederast style. Explain your choice.