Robinson et al v. City of Milwaukee et al

[TorqueWheeler]

I'll come out and say it, I(♥)ANAL, but this seems to be as good as Rick could have replied. Good job by the Strang Bradley guys tardwrangling the pig into submission and avoiding lulzy lines

The beauty of patposting is that it's an infinite-sum game:
- Do the lawsuit get dismissed? LOL
- Do we have a new trial? LMAO
- Does Rick prevail against all odds, and gets some money via settlement/full porcine victory? You just know he will throw all that money back on the roulette table and ask a do over vs Leslie/Quaso/Boomia: Lol, lmao even.

Disagree that they avoided embarrassing themselves. As Jenna and some others posted, there is *plenty* of cringey Pat stuff shoehorned into this piece of garbage. However, I do agree that the brief properly written legal section does provide some solid citations of legal precedence which is exactly what they need to get it to go to trial. An actually good lawyer would have written pages and pages of those and cut out all of Pat's nonsense though.

On the bright side, if it goes to trial then suddenly Pat's word isn't enough no matter how much he oinks about it and body cam footage and police reports have to come into play. I believe one of those VPN calls mentioned was the one Torswats posted as proof that Pat was paying him to swat him so the Torswats situation suddenly could be in play as well. This is guaranteed ribs for months and Pat will end up paying a fortune for it no matter what.

 

[Jenna]

I'll come out and say it, I(♥)ANAL, but this seems to be as good as Rick could have replied. Good job by the Strang Bradley guys tardwrangling the pig into submission and avoiding lulzy lines

The beauty of patposting is that it's an infinite-sum game:
- Do the lawsuit get dismissed? LOL
- Do we have a new trial? LMAO
- Does Rick prevail against all odds, and gets some money via settlement/full porcine victory? You just know he will throw all that money back on the roulette table and ask a do over vs Leslie/Quaso/Boomia: Lol, lmao even.

Honestly, I think the opposite. MPD's claim was entirely lawyer-written in lawyer-speak, he responded with more of his storytelling and trying to elicit sympathy.

The crux of the argument is him redefining "seizure" from "the police take your property without cause" to... I don't know. Nothing was ever taken, there's no reported damage, just hurt feelings. When his entire case is built around the 4th amendment against unlawful search and seizure, you kind of have to prove material objects were taken from you by the police. It means what I say it means, judge child.

There's qualified immunity, and then there's the simple fact that sometimes humans have to follow the orders of authority figures. It's like suing the TSA for $1 million because you wanted to fly to Hawaii but refused to go through a metal detector, and claiming that somehow violates your constitutional rights. If a cop asks to see your spouse to make sure she's okay, the reasonable expectation is that your wife comes downstairs so the cop can affirm there's nothing wrong. No civilian has the right to order the police to go away, and both sides have conceded why this is true.

He's put all his cards on the table, and the MPD barely has. Like someone mentioned earlier, he has a police record threatening to kill his ex-wife and unborn baby: that alone goes beyond qualified immunity because Patrick already has a DV charge on his rap sheet.

I wouldn't be surprised if the judge outright dismisses the case based on how poor this brief is.

 

[Slackjawed Cow]

. I believe one of those VPN calls mentioned was the one Torswats posted as proof that Pat was paying him to swat him so the Torswats situation suddenly could be in play as well. This is guaranteed ribs for months and Pat will end up paying a fortune for it no matter what.

 

[Jenna]

On the bright side, if it goes to trial then suddenly Pat's word isn't enough no matter how much he oinks about it and body cam footage and police reports have to come into play.

The bodycam footage will completely destroy Pat's case. Him screaming at the top of his lungs and aggressively threatening officers (both verbally and physically) is more than enough probable cause to temporarily put him in handcuffs and search the premises just to make sure there's nothing wrong.

The entire lawsuit from Patrick's side is once again based on the premise he is a perfect angel and whyus.jpg. When the cops show up to a call and you drunkenly start yelling at them, you get lucky when they don't haul you down to the drunk tank for the night.

 

[General Fatton]

I figure that both sides want the cheapest, most expedient option - City for a dismissal, and Fatrick for a settlement. I’ve been lucky enough to have this retardation off of my life’s bingo card, but if Milwaukee was going for the most expedient option, wouldn’t they have offered some paltry sum to STFU and go away?

You cant offer settlements THAT easily. There's already an stablished industry solely focused in milking the govt via lawsuits and you certainly dont want to add up to that creating precedents/case law

On the bright side, if it goes to trial then suddenly Pat's word isn't enough no matter how much he oinks about it and body cam footage and police reports have to come into play. I believe one of those VPN calls mentioned was the one Torswats posted as proof that Pat was paying him to swat him so the Torswats situation suddenly could be in play as well. This is guaranteed ribs for months and Pat will end up paying a fortune for it no matter what.

A trial would mean that an actual team of lawyers (not just Quasi this time) would actually comb over Rick colossal digital footprint and his my-dad-works-at-nintendo lies. The list of scenarios coming out of that is endless

So maybe my take is biased, because the funniest outcome of this would be a full Ally-McBeal-type lawsuit episode. Rick needs small wins so he can later step on bigger rakes. Rick technically got a small win in the temporary restriction order against BDA but then that gave us one of the best audios of the entire saga. Rick botching the new TRO vs Dan Mullen? small laughs, but a new hearing would have been hilarious.

 

[chewtoyrapist]

I'll come out and say it, I(♥)ANAL, but this seems to be as good as Rick could have replied. Good job by the Strang Bradley guys tardwrangling the pig into submission and avoiding lulzy lines

The beauty of patposting is that it's an infinite-sum game:
- Do the lawsuit get dismissed? LOL
- Do we have a new trial? LMAO
- Does Rick prevail against all odds, and gets some money via settlement/full porcine victory? You just know he will throw all that money back on the roulette table and ask a do over vs Leslie/Quaso/Boomia: Lol, lmao even.

Imma agree with this. I have a feeling there's enough in there that unless the defense destroys them with FACTS AND LOGIC in the next response, then the judge will want to see this proceed and we'll get a nice circus of pat retardation.

Honestly, I think the opposite. MPD's claim was entirely lawyer-written in lawyer-speak, he responded with more of his storytelling and trying to elicit sympathy.

The crux of the argument is him redefining "seizure" from "the police take your property without cause" to... I don't know. Nothing was ever taken, there's no reported damage, just hurt feelings. When his entire case is built around the 4th amendment against unlawful search and seizure, you kind of have to prove material objects were taken from you by the police. It means what I say it means, judge child.

There's qualified immunity, and then there's the simple fact that sometimes humans have to follow the orders of authority figures. It's like suing the TSA for $1 million because you wanted to fly to Hawaii but refused to go through a metal detector, and claiming that somehow violates your constitutional rights. If a cop asks to see your spouse to make sure she's okay, the reasonable expectation is that your wife comes downstairs so the cop can affirm there's nothing wrong. No civilian has the right to order the police to go away, and both sides have conceded why this is true.

He's put all his cards on the table, and the MPD barely has. Like someone mentioned earlier, he has a police record threatening to kill his ex-wife and unborn baby: that alone goes beyond qualified immunity because Patrick already has a DV charge on his rap sheet.

I wouldn't be surprised if the judge outright dismisses the case based on how poor this brief is.

I just really hope the judge lets this go to discovery because it's all vague enough that maybe something wrong did happen and he wants to see it. Then we get bodycam of nikki answering the door while patrick is shouting and pacing with clenched autism fists in the background... but they were supposed to walk away assuming there was nothing going on.

 

[chewtoyrapist]

Rick technically got a small win in the temporary restriction order against BDA but then that gave us one of the best audios of the entire saga.

Still ribbin ya, but Rick didn't get shit technically or otherwise.

 

[chewtoyrapist]

Btw, let's not forget that during the pepperoni "swaTTing" he was, by his own account, drunk and belligerent and had to be held back by his wife from assaulting a police officer. I think this is probably more what he was known for in MPD more than as a poor innocent swat risk.

 

[Treat Yourself]

If a judge lets this go to trial he's dumber than Rick. The MPD laid out in three separate iron-clad ways how Piggy Tits is fucked and all he could come back with is a bunch of emotional appeals and "this happened, trust me, no I don't have any evidence of it I'm sorry you're so stupid child" hearsay. Instead I hope the judge sees through this and sentences Patty to life without parole for the crime of being obesely retarded.

 

[FranksWirecutters]

Imma agree with this. I have a feeling there's enough in there that unless the defense destroys them with FACTS AND LOGIC in the next response, then the judge will want to see this proceed and we'll get a nice circus of pat retardation.

I just really hope the judge lets this go to discovery because it's all vague enough that maybe something wrong did happen and he wants to see it. Then we get bodycam of nikki answering the door while patrick is shouting and pacing with clenched autism fists in the background... but they were supposed to walk away assuming there was nothing going on.

As far as I read they're in discovery now. That's why the city told him to fuck off in their motion.

 

[Uncle Anthony Cumia]

Special Boy had to wait til the very last moment to file his appeal. Go figure.

No Court Clerk child, 4:55 is not 5:00, you will take my 29 page objection written by Chat GP now!

 

[Uncle Anthony Cumia]

If a judge lets this go to trial he's dumber than Rick. The MPD laid out in three separate iron-clad ways how Piggy Tits is fucked and all he could come back with is a bunch of emotional appeals and "this happened, trust me, no I don't have any evidence of it I'm sorry you're so stupid child" hearsay. Instead I hope the judge sees through this and sentences Patty to life without parole for the crime of being obesely retarded.

I actually kind of want him to. So when Piggy takes the L as usual, he gets to pay all the cities legal fees. I’m sure that’s gonna be close to $125k

 

[Farmer Brown]

The crux of the argument is him redefining "seizure" from "the police take your property without cause" to... I don't know. Nothing was ever taken, there's no reported damage, just hurt feelings. When his entire case is built around the 4th amendment against unlawful search and seizure, you kind of have to prove material objects were taken from you by the police. It means what I say it means, judge child.

That's the crux of the argument in your retard brain. Nobody's "redefining seizure." You think it doesn't apply to persons?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects..."

Not that you've ever read the Constitution, but if you had, what do you think "persons" refers to?

Why are you spewing paragraphs of shit thinking you're analyzing anything?

 

[Jenna]

That's the crux of the argument in your retard brain. Nobody's "redefining seizure." You think it doesn't apply to persons?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects..."

Not that you've ever read the Constitution, but if you had, what do you think "persons" refers to?

Why are you spewing paragraphs of shit thinking you're analyzing anything?

A seizure of a person would be if they put him in a cop car, drove him to the station, and put him in a cell for an extended period of time.

Did any of that happen? No. He was briefly handcuffed outside of his property after being hostile with police officers and refusing to let them verify nothing was wrong. Once the verification was complete, he had the handcuffs taken off and was allowed to return to his home.

How would you define it?

 

[chewtoyrapist]

That's the crux of the argument in your retard brain. Nobody's "redefining seizure." You think it doesn't apply to persons?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects..."

Not that you've ever read the Constitution, but if you had, what do you think "persons" refers to?

Why are you spewing paragraphs of shit thinking you're analyzing anything?

Pig/human hybrids are in an as yet undefined legal grey area. This could be exciting new precedent establishing them as non-persons.

 

[Farmer Brown]

Pig/human hybrids are in an as yet undefined legal grey area. This could be exciting new precedent establishing them as non-persons.

Fair enough

 

[Jenna]

Fair enough

You should really brush up on your constitutional knowledge before coming in here all angry

 

[Farmer Brown]

A seizure of a person would be if they put him in a cop car, drove him to the station, and put him in a cell for an extended period of time.

Did any of that happen? No. He was briefly handcuffed outside of his property after being hostile with police officers and refusing to let them verify nothing was wrong. Once the verification was complete, he had the handcuffs taken off and was allowed to return to his home.

How would you define it?

First you said seizure referred to property and they are redifining it as persons.

Now you say seizure is persons, but only if they drove off in a cop car, and put him in a cell for an "extended period of time."

Why do you keep plucking shit out of your asshole and proclaiming it truth? Without even bothering to polish it?

 

[Farmer Brown]

You should really brush up on your constitutional knowledge before coming in here all angry

Perhaps I got off on the wrong foot

 

[Jenna]

First you said seizure referred to property and they are redifining it as persons.

Now you say seizure is persons, but only if they drove off in a cop car, and put him in a cell for an "extended period of time."

Why do you keep plucking shit out of your asshole and proclaiming it truth? Without even bothering to polish it?

Patrick nor Niki have been hauled away during any of the swat calls. Seizure is defined as the police taking something away, and this does include people under the broad umbrella. However this term is waived when the police have any reason to suspect a crime - thus spending the night in the drunk tank, or taking away a husband after a domestic violence call.

If the police knock on your door and go "we're taking to you to prison just because we feel like it", then yes you'd have a very good case of seizure of person. So for one, it wouldn't apply because Patrick yells and threatens enough to escalate it to at least "disorderly conduct", and two they never took his ass away from the hovel. The police never took a single thing from the hovel, and they need to take something for it to be defined a seizure.