Can anyone remember that heinously bad Metallica album with Lou Reed?

[Sue2]

I’m not doubting the TECHNICAL talent of any of the Metallica guys. Riffing like that or double kicks that Lars does or the tappy solos Kirk does takes physical talent. But they have no writing talent. All of those riffs are so extremely basic it’s insane. The only thing that gives them their feel is the rhythmic variations between each one.

You referenced Enter Sandman like that was the zenith of their work. Just admit it: you're criticizing them like you only heard Ace of Spades and decided that Motorhead isn't worthy of praise.

Except Ace of Spades is great.

Metallicas first album has some energy to it simply because its a bunch of kids making music in a garage and it has that raw feel to it. Everything after is pretty lame.

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

You referenced Enter Sandman like that was the zenith of their work. Just admit it: you're criticizing them like you only heard Ace of Spades and decided that Motorhead isn't worthy of praise.

"The original Nirvana". Have this.

Plus enter sandman guitar riff was ripped from Deep Purples “Space Truckin’l

 

[PickleRickle]

Stop being fags. Metallica used to be cool.

 

[NoBacon]

This guy is the biggest faggot in music history

 

[Turk February]

Should have called it HardRockica, if you ask me

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

This guy is the biggest faggot in music history

He’s up there up but not the biggest. Bono, Eddie Veddar, Springsteen, Dave Matthews, Jack White, and Sting are pretty bigger faggots.

 

[NoBacon]

He’s up there up but not the biggest. Bono, Eddie Veddar, Springsteen, Dave Matthews, Jack White, and Sting are pretty bigger faggots.

True, but he’s definitely on the mount Rushmore of talentless obnoxious faggots in music. He’s no Ray Wilson, that’s for sure.

 

[PickleRickle]

True, but he’s definitely on the mount Rushmore of talentless obnoxious faggots in music. He’s no Ray Wilson, that’s for sure.

He's only where he is because the other Metallica guys gravitated towards the rich faggot for his money and access. Lars was the worst drummer in Metallica.

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

True, but he’s definitely on the mount Rushmore of talentless obnoxious faggots in music. He’s no Ray Wilson, that’s for sure.

I’ll go with that, everyone knows he’s the luckiest drummer next to Ringo.

I met Lars years ago backstage before a show and he’s actually a pretty nice guy. I even busted his balls a little bit about how he behaved in “Some Kind Of Monster” and he laughed.

Seems like with Metallica it’s the James & Lars show and Kirk knows to stay the fuck out of there way. That’s how they’ve kept Robert - Kirk told him “stay back” from them. That seems to be common in a lot of bands - two guys in charge that see themselves as Lennon / McCartney (The Eagles are a great example of this, etc)

 

[PickleRickle]

I’ll go with that, everyone knows he’s the luckiest drummer next to Ringo.

I met Lars years ago backstage before a show and he’s actually a pretty nice guy. I even busted his balls a little bit about how he behaved in “Some Kind Of Monster” and he laughed,

I'm surprised he didnt act like a queen. Thanks for sharing that.

 

[NoBacon]

He's only where he is because the other Metallica guys gravitated towards the rich faggot for his money and access. Lars was the worst drummer in Metallica.

He can’t even play properly

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

I'm surprised he didnt act like a queen. Thanks for sharing that.

Yeah it was a meet & greet thing and him and Robert were the nicest out of the band. James and Kirk weren’t dicks or anything but don’t really say much.

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

A bunch of retarded doped out junkies playing the most simplistic music ever with 0 knowledge of how to actually make music.

However every bass player they’ve ever had has always been the most talented band member, mainly because they come into the band knowing theory while the rest of them like to noodle around with their instruments.

I’m not doubting the TECHNICAL talent of any of the Metallica guys. Riffing like that or double kicks that Lars does or the tappy solos Kirk does takes physical talent. But they have no writing talent. All of those riffs are so extremely basic it’s insane.

Moved the goalposts pretty quick there, didn't ya?

I don't care if you think Metallica sucks because they're one of the most resented bands ever. That's not new. They're not my favourite band. But you're saying they weren't ever worth a shit which is laughable, and you changed your story. And you could actually doubt the proficiency of Lars and Kirk because they're the weakest members in terms of technique and talent, but they're not the (close to the sole) reason why they're popular.

Arguing about musical taste is pointless because it's so abstract, but it's silly to argue that a band has always sucked when in the 80s (prior to the Black Album) they were composing 8+ minute songs, playing them live and becoming huge. Jesus Christ, just talk about how everything post-Black stinks like everybody else, stop trying to be some contrarian that says they always stunk. That's almost literally every metalhead who still walks around in public with long hair (I'm guilty of this), a black black metal t-shirt, skinny jeans and faggy sneakers. We get it: a band that has no mainstream success is better than Metallica, and Metallica never had any redeeming qualities.

inb4 "I'm not saying they're technically bad, but they suck". Okay, well how do they outright suck if they're technically good? Stop trying to justify your tastes.

Except Ace of Spades is great.

It is. But I have read reviews from supposed music critics who've dubbed Motorhead, and I'm not kidding, as a "sloppier Metallica" or a "faster but poor man's AC/DC" and it's usually based on that one song and it's not even an accurate portrayal anyway.

Plus enter sandman guitar riff was ripped from Deep Purples “Space Truckin’l

Also Metallica's 'Slither' has the same riff, just slowed down.

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

Moved the goalposts pretty quick there, didn't ya?

I don't care if you think Metallica sucks because they're one of the most resented bands ever. That's not new. They're not my favourite band. But you're saying they weren't ever worth a shit which is laughable, and you changed your story. And you could actually doubt the proficiency of Lars and Kirk because they're the weakest members in terms of technique and talent, but they're not the (close to the sole) reason why they're popular.

Arguing about musical taste is pointless because it's so abstract, but it's silly to argue that a band has always sucked when in the 80s (prior to the Black Album) they were composing 8+ minute songs, playing them live and becoming huge. Jesus Christ, just talk about how everything post-Black stinks like everybody else, stop trying to be some contrarian that says they always stunk. That's almost literally every metalhead who still walks around in public with long hair (I'm guilty of this), a black black metal t-shirt, skinny jeans and faggy sneakers. We get it: a band that has no mainstream success is better than Metallica, and Metallica never had any redeeming qualities.

inb4 "I'm not saying they're technically bad, but they suck". Okay, well how do they outright suck if they're technically good? Stop trying to justify your tastes.


It is. But I have read reviews from supposed music critics who've dubbed Motorhead, and I'm not kidding, as a "sloppier Metallica" or a "faster but poor man's AC/DC" and it's usually based on that one song and it's not even an accurate portrayal anyway.




Also Metallica's 'Slither' has the same riff, just slowed down.

That’s crazy critics called Motörhead those things, they were blues based rock like everyone else but just a little more attitude / raw along the lines of punk or even the stooges. I think Lemmy even hated them being called “metal”

 

[satanssockpuppet]

Lou Reed was a fraud, and Metallica was too stupid to realize they were being trolled. They just let that wheezy old fag junkie shit all over them, and begged for more.

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

This guy is the biggest faggot in music history

He’s up there up but not the biggest. Bono, Eddie Veddar, Springsteen, Dave Matthews, Jack White, and Sting are pretty bigger faggots.

I love the guy but Mustaine's a faggot for a) the 2004 remasters where he made everything sound like shit and b) barely making any good music since 1994. He could've stayed true but he chased after mainstream success following Metallica which actually makes him an even bigger faggot.



This is gayer than gay sex.

 

[NoBacon]

Lou Reed was a fraud, and Metallica was too stupid to realize they were being trolled. They just let that wheezy old fag junkie shit all over them, and begged for more.

I AM THE TABLE

 

[satanssockpuppet]

I would cut my legs and tits off
When I think of Boris Karloff and Kinski
In the dark of the moon
It made me dream of Nosferatu
Trapped on the isle of Doctor Moreau
Oh wouldn't it be lovely

I was thinking Peter Lorre
When things got pretty gory as I
Crossed to the Brandenburg Gate
I was feeling snappy perhaps I'd been napping
As I just ate
A following heart can tear you apart
On a midnight to eight shift
A graveyard romance can only give one chance
As the tombstones weave and breathe

I mean Jesus Christ, there's just no way he wasn't cracking himself up when he penned that sad-sack sorry pile of drivel. He showed them those lyrics, they sat there saying "duh, OK" and he laughed his ass off all the way back to his sordid junkie lair.

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

That’s crazy critics called Motörhead those things, they were blues based rock like everyone else but just a little more attitude / raw along the lines of punk or even the stooges. I think Lemmy even hated them being called “metal”

Yeah they're technically not metal, it's rock 'n roll but as heavy and fast as possible. One review of them I did like called them "50% rock, 50% punk and 50% metal, and yes that does equal 150% because that's how overwhelming they are" and that's what they were like. I saw them in 2011, best show ever.

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

I would cut my legs and tits off
When I think of Boris Karloff and Kinski
In the dark of the moon
It made me dream of Nosferatu
Trapped on the isle of Doctor Moreau
Oh wouldn't it be lovely

I was thinking Peter Lorre
When things got pretty gory as I
Crossed to the Brandenburg Gate
I was feeling snappy perhaps I'd been napping
As I just ate
A following heart can tear you apart
On a midnight to eight shift
A graveyard romance can only give one chance
As the tombstones weave and breathe

I mean Jesus Christ, there's just no way he wasn't cracking himself up when he penned that sad-sack sorry pile of drivel. He showed them those lyrics, they sat there saying "duh, OK" and he laughed his ass off all the way back to his sordid junkie lair.

IIRC Lou Reed fantasised about having a threesome with a guy and a girl who were siblings.