Watched Sideways (2004)

Harry Powell

You’re the girl I needed in jr. high
I think he’s also slightly more of an alcoholic in the book. It’s been twenty years since I saw the movie or read the book, but I seem to remember the scene where he drinks out of the wine spittoon to be funny but also darker in the book?

Fawk I gotta revisit them both
 

TorpidSloth

This is a great movie but the book is fucking phenomenal.

His character is even more of a scumbag in the book. The book scene where he’s sneaking around to steal his mother’s money for the trip had my ribs shattering.
It was a nice touch in the movie where they suggested, without hammering the point, that a) his mother was also a wino/borderline boozebag and b) she knew he stole the money and it probably was a fairly common occurrence.
 

TorpidSloth

This thread inspired me watch it again tonight. No merlot in a glass for me tonight!
I remember someone pointing out that his prize vintage bottle that he's saving for a special occasion (and then drinks out of a paper cup with a cheeseburger and onion rings when he hears his ex is pregnant and gets all depressed) is a Merlot/Cab Franc blend. Nice research, stupids!
 

UnPRePared

For the last time, I am NOT Donal Logue!
Yeah well it's also over three hours long. Who TF has time for that? Patrick I guess cause he's unemployed

If I remember, Patrick has criticized old films for being too long or for just not getting the point.

The main problem is he's a stupid fuck.

My issue with Lawrence of Arabia isn't the length - I've watched The Complete Metropolis many times, and love it - I think it's just too dry, too factual. Historical epics are a little hit and miss with me.

Blame Grammar School.
 

IGotATreeOnMyHouse85

Stand Alone Fruit
If I remember, Patrick has criticized old films for being too long or for just not getting the point.

The main problem is he's a stupid fuck.

My issue with Lawrence of Arabia isn't the length - I've watched The Complete Metropolis many times, and love it - I think it's just too dry, too factual. Historical epics are a little hit and miss with me.

Blame Grammar School.
I believe Pat hasn’t a lot of films that are considered classics just because it’s not simply good guys vs bad guys Star Wars / Star Trek / cape shit. Any movie made for adults would go right over his head. He’s never mentioned movies like Godfather, One Flew Over, Goodfellas, Serpico, Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver, Ordinary People, and other very famous acclaimed films because he needs lightsabers and men in capes.
 

Chive Turkey

Erock Army Deserter
Godfather
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I made the mistake of searching for 'Casino' and ended up with a wall of his Trump tweets, and then this:

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That's an awkward shoehorn even for him.

Bonus GOLD, Jerry from the professional comedian:

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I believe Pat hasn’t a lot of films that are considered classics just because it’s not simply good guys vs bad guys Star Wars / Star Trek / cape shit. Any movie made for adults would go right over his head. He’s never mentioned movies like Godfather, One Flew Over, Goodfellas, Serpico, Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver, Ordinary People, and other very famous acclaimed films because he needs lightsabers and men in capes.

You mention a lot of 1970's films, and I freely admit I have love/hate with that decade. Not a popular opinion here.

Too many films feel far too cynical, angry, even nihilistic. That isn't to say they're bad films, but movies like Looking For Mr. Goodbar, Midnight Express, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Apocalypse Now, Eraserhead, Taxi Driver, I know that they're great - I'm glad I watched them once - but I will never watch them again.

I'm a weird old fuck about depressing films. Ever heard of "Come and See"? It's an important film, but I will never, ever watch that. Or "A Serbian Film".

EDIT: et tu, @Ned Flanders ?
 
You mention a lot of 1970's films, and I freely admit I have love/hate with that decade. Not a popular opinion here.

Too many films feel far too cynical, angry, even nihilistic. That isn't to say they're bad films, but movies like Looking For Mr. Goodbar, Midnight Express, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Apocalypse Now, Eraserhead, Taxi Driver, I know that they're great - I'm glad I watched them once - but I will never watch them again.

I'm a weird old fuck about depressing films. Ever heard of "Come and See"? It's an important film, but I will never, ever watch that. Or "A Serbian Film".
What are some of your favorite older TV shows, Ray?
 

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What are some of your favorite older TV shows, Ray?

Blackadder, Lovejoy, The Good Life, Fawlty Towers, the I, Claudius miniseries, and Flying Circus from my childhood. Father Ted when I got older. And when I got a hold of the American sitcoms through international syndication and DVD, I loved Addams Family, The Munsters, Thriller, Star Trek, Mystery Science Theater, and my absolute favourite, early Simpsons.

I know how it looks: almost all of it is comedy and absurdist humour (Thriller not withstanding). It's a bit of a crutch during my down times, when music isn't enough of an outlet, and I don't wish to turn to booze like my old days.

I like to find the good in life, and laugh at the crazy. I'm not a fan of being reminded how cocked up the world can be on a constant basis.

And before you ask, just to get the beating out of the way, my favorite 1970's movie? It's either Blazing Saddles or Smokey & The Bandit.
 
Blackadder, Lovejoy, The Good Life, Fawlty Towers, the I, Claudius miniseries, and Flying Circus from my childhood. Father Ted when I got older. And when I got a hold of the American sitcoms through international syndication and DVD, I loved Addams Family, The Munsters, Thriller, Star Trek, Mystery Science Theater, and my absolute favourite, early Simpsons.

I know how it looks: almost all of it is comedy and absurdist humour (Thriller not withstanding). It's a bit of a crutch during my down times, when music isn't enough of an outlet, and I don't wish to turn to booze like my old days.

I like to find the good in life, and laugh at the crazy. I'm not a fan of being reminded how cocked up the world can be on a constant basis.

And before you ask, just to get the beating out of the way, my favorite 1970's movie? It's either Blazing Saddles or Smokey & The Bandit.
Interesting. Any American shows you liked that weren't sitcoms?
 

IGotATreeOnMyHouse85

Stand Alone Fruit
You mention a lot of 1970's films, and I freely admit I have love/hate with that decade. Not a popular opinion here.

Too many films feel far too cynical, angry, even nihilistic. That isn't to say they're bad films, but movies like Looking For Mr. Goodbar, Midnight Express, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Apocalypse Now, Eraserhead, Taxi Driver, I know that they're great - I'm glad I watched them once - but I will never watch them again.

I'm a weird old fuck about depressing films. Ever heard of "Come and See"? It's an important film, but I will never, ever watch that. Or "A Serbian Film".

EDIT: et tu, @Ned Flanders ?
Wouldn’t watch Cuckoo’s nest again? That’s a very re-watchable movie. I just was listing the classics most people mention as great movies and I’m pretty sure Pat has never seen them - let alone anything made for adults because mentally he seems stunted at 13.
 

Josef Kuminski

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Holy shit he even sucks to watch movies with. Literally zero redeeming qualities.
I believe Pat hasn’t a lot of films that are considered classics just because it’s not simply good guys vs bad guys Star Wars / Star Trek / cape shit. Any movie made for adults would go right over his head. He’s never mentioned movies like Godfather, One Flew Over, Goodfellas, Serpico, Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver, Ordinary People, and other very famous acclaimed films because he needs lightsabers and men in capes.

Don’t forget that faggot claimed to take a Kubrick film course while making honor roll in college.
 

IGotATreeOnMyHouse85

Stand Alone Fruit

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Interesting. Any American shows you liked that weren't sitcoms?

Let's see...

The Shield, but I couldn't watch it again; I really enjoy Beavis and Butthead; Star Trek Next Generation, and that third season of Picard (you'd kill me before I watched the first two); the original Outer Limits was quite good; I'm still not sure what I think about the original Dana Carvey Show, but I never forgot when I watched a bootleg tape of it... MASH is a sitcom but it deserves mention; and what's that David Kelly tripe with Shatner? Boston Legal? For Bill and Spader alone, I loved it.

I have imported a ton of discs over the years that I get through during down times, and I went through plenty during lockdowns. It's how I've found so many.

And I didn't mention it the last time, but Garth Marenghi's Dark Place is still one of my absolute favourite shows.
 

UnPRePared

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Wouldn’t watch Cuckoo’s nest again? That’s a very re-watchable movie. I just was listing the classics most people mention as great movies and I’m pretty sure Pat has never seen them - let alone anything made for adults because mentally he seems stunted at 13.

Cuckoo's Nest is great, it's just the ending, I admit. Maybe I'm a bit of that old school Hollywood ending type, but I don't think that's quite it. I have an extensive collection of pre-code films and many didn't have happy endings at all, like "Deluge" and "One Way Passage". Maybe I just like the happy or bittersweet?

Or maybe I'm a stubborn cunt.
 

JoeBrotheChildSpitGuzzler

I Am Racist Man Leader of the Digital Ku Klux Klan
You mention a lot of 1970's films, and I freely admit I have love/hate with that decade. Not a popular opinion here.

Too many films feel far too cynical, angry, even nihilistic. That isn't to say they're bad films, but movies like Looking For Mr. Goodbar, Midnight Express, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Apocalypse Now, Eraserhead, Taxi Driver, I know that they're great - I'm glad I watched them once - but I will never watch them again.

I'm a weird old fuck about depressing films. Ever heard of "Come and See"? It's an important film, but I will never, ever watch that. Or "A Serbian Film".

EDIT: et tu, @Ned Flanders ?
Yeah you're not wrong. I love Friends of Eddie Coyle but it's a massive downer. The 70s made great crime movies for that reason
 
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IGotATreeOnMyHouse85

Stand Alone Fruit
Cuckoo's Nest is great, it's just the ending, I admit. Maybe I'm a bit of that old school Hollywood ending type, but I don't think that's quite it. I have an extensive collection of pre-code films and many didn't have happy endings at all, like "Deluge" and "One Way Passage". Maybe I just like the happy or bittersweet?

Or maybe I'm a stubborn cunt.
The ending is a bit of a downer but it works as a re-watchable movie. Just recently I had it on and was laughing out loud at the whole boat scene. The group scenes alone are great. I remember Ron Bennington once compared Fez to Cheswick which is perfect,
 

IGotATreeOnMyHouse85

Stand Alone Fruit
Yeah you're not wrong. I love Friends of Eddie Doyle but it's a massive downer. The 70s made great crime movies for that reason
The 70s to me was when the studios just let the directors do what they want and produced huge hits but eventually each major guy had a flop (1941 for Speilberg, etc) or went way over budget / shooting schedule (Apocalypse Now for Coppola etc) and by the 80s studios reigned them back in.
 
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