TRUMP TRIAL MEGATHREAD

[chocolatehellhole]

You cannot prosecute a US President for drone strikes

You can if they're on American citizens. Point me to the statute that allows for Presidents to murder Americans as long as they're out of country.

 

[Steve Ramone]

Holy shit this is like Bizarro /r/politics

 

[chocolatehellhole]

…That was Hilary, I was talking about Bill. Hilary should absolutely be charged too.

I said Clinton, but if you'd like to get pedantic Bill should be investigated and charged for sex crimes against minors.

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

If they just left him alone, he would be out of office in 4 years for good anyway and would more than likely end up disliked regardless.

Do you histrionic tards have any idea the long term damage this causes setting these precedents? It’s fucking insane.

Is the precedent that Presidents, current or past, are just regular citizens holding an office temporarily and are exactly like every other citizen because the entire system was designed not to be a monarchy/dictatorship? If so then yeah, I'm cool with that.

 

[chocolatehellhole]

Is the precedent that Presidents, current or past, are just regular citizens holding an office temporarily and are exactly like every other citizen because the entire system was designed not to be a monarchy/dictatorship? If so then yeah, I'm cool with that.

Sweet. Let's try Obama for murder since he's just a regular guy that murdered US citizens. This system isn't some sort of dictatorship, right?

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

Sweet. Let's try Obama for murder since he's just a regular guy that murdered US citizens. This system isn't some sort of dictatorship, right?

Lol, you think I'd be against that idea. We honestly need trials for Obama, Trump, Bill Clinton, W. Bush, Reagan...

I'm not sure how far back you'd have to go but yeah, if you committed crimes you should go to prison. Or just do whatever you want at all times with no penalty.

 

[Steve Ramone]

Sweet. Let's try Obama for murder since he's just a regular guy that murdered US citizens. This system isn't some sort of dictatorship, right?

Weren't these charges for things trump did during his campaign and not as president?

 

[chocolatehellhole]

Reagan

Yes. Let's convict the dead.

 

[NoBacon]

Sweet. Let's try Obama for murder since he's just a regular guy that murdered US citizens. This system isn't some sort of dictatorship, right?

Years ago these guys would have been talking in solemn hushed tones about how Trump colluded with Russia and all the other made up stories that got pushed every day.

They are also the same people who were upset Hilary’s emails were leaked by Russians (they weren’t) and didn’t care about the contents of the emails. I never understood it, and never will.

They’re also the same types who sincerely believe things like “if you’ve got nothing to hide you’ve got nothing to worry about” in terms of the surveillance state or “if the vaccine wasn’t safe they wouldn’t be allowed to sell it” and other such snopes level down syndrome ways of thinking.

 

[Sue2]

You can if they're on American citizens. Point me to the statute that allows for Presidents to murder Americans as long as they're out of country.

There is no statute. On the contrary, it’s literally in our bill of rights to restrict against cruel and unusual punishment , and I think being obliterated by a drone strike could also constitute as “cruel and unusual”. Our constitution being at odds with itself should not be shocking. The President can invade countries, torture people, and kill US civilians, but as long as it’s “warfare” and thus an “official act”, it’s just seen as fine…For some reason.

 

[Steve Ramone]

This trial has absolutely nothing to do with presidential immunity and anyone making that argument probably has downs.

 

[chocolatehellhole]

There is no statute. On the contrary, it’s literally in our bill of rights to restrict against cruel and unusual punishment , and I think being obliterated by a drone strike could also constitute as “cruel and unusual”. Our constitution being at odds with itself should not be shocking. The President can invade countries, torture people, and kill US civilians, but as long as it’s “warfare” and thus an “official act”, it’s just seen as fine…For some reason.

So when Trump gets back in office, you won't be complaining when he orders all queers, muslims, and mexicans into death camps right?

 

[Cuphead]

BORING!

 

[chocolatehellhole]

This trial has absolutely nothing to do with presidential immunity and anyone making that argument probably has downs.

Yes, 34 felony counts of some guy stealing your money and paying off a whore while someone uses a stamp to approve payments is not politically motivated. He just needs to pay the price for having a porn star agree to shutup for money.

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

So when Trump gets back in office, you won't be complaining when he orders all queers, muslims, and mexicans into death camps right?

Shit, he'd win in a landslide if he promised this.

 

[Sue2]

So when Trump gets back in office, you won't be complaining when he orders all queers, muslims, and mexicans into death camps right?

I would. The same way I don’t like Obama bombing civilians and citizens. But he couldn’t face any repercussions for it besides maybe impeachment. Thats my point. If he could finagle his way into saying it’s an “official act” he’s covered.

 

[chocolatehellhole]

I would. The same way I don’t like Obama bombing civilians and citizens. But he couldn’t face any repercussions for it besides maybe impeachment. Thats my point. If he could finagle his way into saying it’s an “official act” he’s covered.

Civil settlements don't turn into 34 felony counts because of paperwork being filed incorrectly you dipshit. I hope the IRS arrests you.

 

[satanssockpuppet]

The time to get rid of Trump was when he had to go to the hospital in 2020. If he'd been taken care of then, we'd just about be finished talking about him by now, and he'd begin to fade from memory. But it's too late now, so we'll just have to wait until he dies some other way. Trump is guilty of everything and then some, but nothing will actually happen. It's the story of his life, and it's not gonna suddenly change now.

 

[Cuphead]

At the end of the day, nobody will care what the verdict is.

 

[Sue2]

Yes, 34 felony counts of

Business fraud.

some guy stealing your money

Completely irrelevant and actually proves the point. Wow, Cohen stole 60k from the Red Finch repayment…and that money was given to him through the lumpsum of the Daniels repayment, which apparently never happened.

and paying off a whore while someone uses a stamp to approve payments

Fucking lol completely absolving Trump like he didn’t direct the payment plan and sign the checks himself.