The UK is now at war with Russia. Enjoy conscription!

[Turk February]

Did it?

Yes?

 

[:sumaturry:]

The bust of Lenin is what's all over Turk's aviators

 

[Chapel]

Does that mean we have deport Farage, Tice and other Russian supporting cunts?
Cannwe send them James Corden?

 

[Turk February]

The bust of Lenin is what's all over Turk's aviators

No but it's not cum. That's for sure. There's a sign saying it.

 

[NoBacon]

I don’t think the UK should be using their missiles to attack Russia, it seems dangerous and not what the UK government is elected to do.

It’s really that simple and doesn’t need people to larp as Rommel or whatever.

 

[Turk February]

I don’t think the UK should be using their missiles to attack Russia, it seems dangerous and not what the UK government is elected to do.

It’s really that simple and doesn’t need people to larp as Rommel or whatever.

As a Russian I'd argue the Putin regime needs to be stopped at any cost. They have gone too far. They got banned from Eurovision. I'm sick of having to cheer for Finland.

 

[:sumaturry:]

I don’t think the UK should be using their missiles to attack Russia, it seems dangerous and not what the UK government is elected to do.

It’s really that simple and doesn’t need people to larp as Rommel or whatever.

You love it when Ukrainian babies are murdered en masse. WE GET IT

 

[:sumaturry:]

@NoBacon won't rest until the USSR is ascendent once more and every woman and child is in the gulag eating shoes to survive

 

[NoBacon]

As a Russian I'd argue the Putin regime needs to be stopped at any cost. They have gone too far. They got banned from Eurovision. I'm sick of having to cheer for Finland.

When the US/UK illegally invaded Iraq/Afghanistan and slaughtered millions of women and children because they lied about WMDs, do you think Russia and BRICS should have entered into a blood feud against us because it’s the “right” thing to do?

Russia tried to join NATO, and spent decades warning about encroaching on their borders - so it’s not even remotely as bad as what we did 20 years ago destroying nations across the Middle East massacring millions.

@despacito69 comment?

 

[WhereWeAt]

Russia has done 1 mobilization of 300k troops, besides that they've been relying on volunteers and foreign mercenaries. Russia actually spent the first 2 years of the war with less troops fielded than Ukraine.

This says more about their underestimating Ukraine and straining to pivot than any kind of discernible skill. And the US estimates 600k war dead for Russia, so even if that's exaggerated, I tend to believe Russia is under reporting its mobilization numbers.

They spent most of 2022 and 2023 just artillery shelling and missile striking Ukrainian positions

Now most of the Ukrainian army doesn't have legs and are old men who were forcefully conscripted and since August Russia has been pretty steadily just advancing across the whole front.

You're right about their approach, but i would disagree on just how effective it's been. Russia has made modest gains this year in concentrated areas that remain contested thanks to sustained artillery attacks. But yes, I would agree they have the upper hand at the moment. However, if Ukraine was as weak as you claim, there would be no contested territory, would there? Or the grandpas and amputees are exceptional fighters?

Ukraine simply doesn't have the manpower to stop Russian advances in a meaningful way anymore,

Russia's defenders have said this throughout the war's duration, yet here we are. Still at a stalemate.

Everything NATO/Ukraine does at this point is basically scorched Earth, making sure every field has mines it in and every city is rubble so Russia has to spend its budget fixing everything once they capture it

or Ukraine could use missiles to attack Russia artillery positions and regain the upper hand...

 

[WhereWeAt]

do you think Russia and BRICS should have entered into a blood feud against us because it’s the “right” thing to do?

BRICS isn't a military alliance, or really anything of substance. And if you think Brazil is ever fighting a war against the US, you don't know anything about the Brazilian military.

 

[NoBacon]

BRICS isn't a military alliance, or really anything of substance. And if you think Brazil is ever fighting a war against the US, you don't know anything about the Brazilian military.

I know but you’ve jumped on a pedantic point that isn’t being made to ignore the actual argument.

The UK government isn’t elected to fire missiles at Russia after inserting themselves into a conflict that doesn’t involve them. If you think it involves them because of a moral argument, why didn’t Russia fire missiles at us when we illegally invaded many countries recently and massacred millions of women and children?

 

[WhereWeAt]

Ukraine is unironically more powerful than any NATO army

They had huge Soviet stockpiles, have conscripted well over a million men by this point and received 8 years straight of military combat experience and training against the Russians before the main invasion even started.

Russia would wipe the floor with England, France, Germany and of course all the nothing minor NATO countries.

The only NATO country that actually poses a threat to anyone is the U.S

Did you seriously just cite Soviet-era weaponry as a good thing? NATO outguns Russia in manpower, training, and equipping. 4th generation NATO hand me downs are defeating 5th gen Russian fighters, but yes by all means please continue praising their technological edge.

But Belgium doesn't have 70s-era MiGs, so fuck why even bother?

 

[NoBacon]

I know but you’ve jumped on a pedantic point that isn’t being made to ignore the actual argument.

The UK government isn’t elected to fire missiles at Russia after inserting themselves into a conflict that doesn’t involve them. If you think it involves them because of a moral argument, why didn’t Russia fire missiles at us when we illegally invaded many countries recently and massacred millions of women and children?

@WhereWeAt comment? Don’t care about your amateur war gaming assessments.

 

[WhereWeAt]

The UK government isn’t elected to fire missiles at Russia after inserting themselves into a conflict that doesn’t involve them.

If they did, it would be an act of war. But Ukraine did. In response to a sustained invasion.

 

[NoBacon]

If they did, it would be an act of war. But Ukraine did. In response to a sustained invasion.

They provided them and the ability to use them and the data to guide them.

If I load a gun, drive you to someone’s house, show you how to use it, and tell you when he’s inside and walk you to his door at that time - are you absolved of responsibility?

Also you appear to have cropped the rest by accident, what mandate does the UK have to enter this conflict? And why are they allowed to moralise when they recently massacred millions of civilians in illegal invasions predicated on known lies?

 

[WhereWeAt]

I’m deleting the thread because it’s just not worth it, we have to accept we live with people who hate trump so much they’d rather millions of forced enlisted kids die in agony in war and we start a nuclear Holocaust because putin is basically Voldemort child

 

[NoBacon]

They provided them and the ability to use them and the data to guide them.

If I load a gun, drive you to someone’s house, show you how to use it, and tell you when he’s inside and walk you to his door at that time - are you absolved of responsibility?

Also you appear to have cropped the rest by accident, what mandate does the UK have to enter this conflict? And why are they allowed to moralise when they recently massacred millions of civilians in illegal invasions predicated on known lies?

@WhereWeAt comment? Your phone appears to have crapped out!

Stop pretending like you are a general with all the latest briefings moving pieces on a board and answer the above . You can, right? You advocate for endless war in ukraine so you must be able to address these basic problems I have?

 

[NoBacon]

Did you serve in Afghanistan? How many children did you kill for Tony Blair’s lies? Did it make you feel like a big man killing farmers and their families for no reason?

 

[WhereWeAt]

Did you serve in Afghanistan?

Yes.

How many children did you kill for Tony Blair’s lies? Did it make you feel like a big man killing farmers and their families for no reason?