Robinson et al v. City of Milwaukee et al

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

I recently watched a body cam video and the suspect screamed "I can't breathe" 71 times during the video. No joke.

It’s pretty tough to yell you can’t breathe if you can’t breathe.

 

[Kim_Jong_Poon_]

I understand the PR concern but then again Pat and Niki don’t realize since they’re white and not black they won’t get any sympathy or attention. Just the fact they’re doing this and not black really hurts the chance of a pay and go away.

Aren't they suing Sgt Evans too on top of the city??? I have to imagine that would complicate a settlement offer

 

[Guest]

So what was the PigLogic legal strat behind adding 20 additional officers by name to the new lolsuit? Is this to create more pressure for a settlement? Is it to create an even bigger settlement in Pig’s fantasy where a jury is involved? Doesn’t this make it harder to get the whole thing across the line?

 

[Black Pat]

I give her some credit, she doesn’t spend every waking moment on some kind of SM and doesn’t post every aspect of her life to be displayed for the world to see. I’m curious of how she spends her days since she doesn’t actually work. I don’t know Lynn puts up with this shit, your kid and their spouse are in their 40s and don’t work, not because they can’t, but because they won’t and think working is for plebs.

She also doesn't incessantly reply to everything and pour fuel on the fire on a daily basis. Amazing how that works.

 

[JoeCumiawearsDIAPERS]

I feel like the police will fight this one - they did their jobs and knew these two were trying to find a way to sue them for a payday.

I agree - I imagine the fact that he named like 10 individual cops is going to prompt the police union lawyers to team up with the city. I’m not a union guy but i know they're not the type to just bend the knee to a fat lesbian and his retarded wife.

 

[WifeStoreWill]

I understand the PR concern but then again Pat and Niki don’t realize since they’re white and not black they won’t get any sympathy or attention. Just the fact they’re doing this and not black really hurts the chance of a pay and go away.

Also they sued the cops personally, so the city doesn’t get to decide to settle for them.

 

[quasi101]

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

I agree - I imagine the fact that he named like 10 individual cops is going to prompt the police union lawyers to team up with the city. I’m not a union guy but i know they're not the type to just bend the knee to a fat lesbian and his retarded wife.

I wonder if he got bad news about his tiny Tim nonsense and decided to add more to his case in hopes of a bigger payday. He’s already getting banned from Cons so hes desperate for any income.

 

[WifeStoreWill]

I wonder if he got bad news about his tiny Tim nonsense and decided to add more to his case in hopes of a bigger payday. He’s already getting banned from Cons so hes desperate for any income.

Getting banned from Cons saves him money

 

[JebJoh]

166 weeks, not nights Sue.

That's a lot more then

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

Getting banned from Cons saves him money

True, but it doesn’t help with his “industry” connections in relation to publishers.

I can’t imagine living in a city where you are actually suing individual police officers. I would move away if I was dumb enough to do that.

 

[Josef Kuminski]

She also doesn't incessantly reply to everything and pour fuel on the fire on a daily basis. Amazing how that works.

I can’t imagine how she’s reacted when he replies back to a Redditors group text. She’s clearly as fucked as Rick. No self respecting woman would stay with him after revealing he simps on women all the time, especially if your mom is seeing the same texts as you.

 

[JebJoh]

True, but it doesn’t help with his “industry” connections in relation to publishers.

I can’t imagine living in a city where you are actually suing individual police officers. I would move away if I was dumb enough to do that.

As much as he considers himself a man of the people / people's poet and whatnot, most of his neighbors know their local cops and probably like them. I would bet any one of these cops has done more public good in the past month than Pat has in his entire life. He is in for a rude awakening. Of course he won't awaken, he will just treat all of the citizens of his city who side with the cops as internet trolls who should be enjoying prison

 

[Suetonius]

So what was the PigLogic legal strat behind adding 20 additional officers by name to the new lolsuit? Is this to create more pressure for a settlement? Is it to create an even bigger settlement in Pig’s fantasy where a jury is involved? Doesn’t this make it harder to get the whole thing across the line?

I don’t think theres any basis in the law for this but I feel like he thinks it increases his odds. Like putting bets on every level of the spread to make sure you win at least one. Can’t prove Sgt Evans was harassing you? Move onto the next officer.

 

[quasi101]

16, dick, never had to be in a lawsuit, but I assume that kind of thing would be first on the list in evidence gathering. While the documents so far read like a very fat retard wrote them, he does apparently have lawyers working on this who can get that kind of thing easily. I wonder if he's writing his own motions to cut costs. It would be classic rick to save 100 dollars on a several hundred thousand dollar lawyer bill by choosing to write the motions himself. It also gives him a chance to add his Professional Author touch that has made him so famous.

Likely if that were the case, the attorneys wouldn't have signed it like with the pro se. I was never stupid enough to try to actually write out the motions if I disagreed. I'd just lay out the research I did with the cases and statutes, not actually write the thing. I asked mine casually once if other people did that and he said they just will rewrite the entire thing anyway. Like what I sent for the post judgment fees.

Hi,

Just following up on something. I am still working to get the judgement domesticated in Wisconsin at this point. However, I've been researching the attorney fees in California as well on post judgement collections. This is why I thought I would be able to recover these.

Here is the statute:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CCP&sectionNum=685.040

The judgment creditor is entitled to the reasonable and necessary costs of enforcing a judgment. Attorney’s fees incurred in enforcing a judgment are not included in costs collectible under this title unless otherwise provided by law. Attorney’s fees incurred in enforcing a judgment are included as costs collectible under this title if the underlying judgment includes an award of attorney’s fees to the judgment creditor pursuant to subparagraph (A) of paragraph (10) of subdivision (a) of Section 1033.5.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CCP&sectionNum=1033.5

(a) The following items are allowable as costs under Section 1032:

(10) Attorney’s fees, when authorized by any of the following:
(A) Contract.
(B) Statute.
(C) Law.

I would be entitled to the fees as they fall under statute. The statute being the 2029.600 that was used in the quash.

• https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CCP&sectionNum=2029.600

I presumed that someone else must have been in a similar situation so I found this appeal decision that is very similar.


https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1525858.html

On November 6, 2007, the court issued a written order awarding Lee $26,407.50 ($25,500 in attorney fees and costs of $907.50) against Lucky under section 425.16, subdivision (c), as the prevailing party in the anti-SLAPP motion to strike (November 6 Order)

Postjudgment Enforcement Costs. In addition to attorney fees and costs imposed as a result of prevailing in the action, postjudgment costs of enforcing the judgment may also be recovered. Some costs, such as fees incurred in regard to abstracts of judgment or notice of judgment liens, may be claimed as a matter of right under section 685.070. Other enforcement expenses incurred by a judgment creditor are recoverable if, upon noticed motion, the court determines they were reasonable and necessary costs of enforcing a judgment. (§ 685.040; see Ketchum v. Moses (2001) 24 Cal.4th 1122, 1141 & fn. 6 [attorney fees incurred in regard to previous award of fees under anti-SLAPP statute are recoverable under § 685.040] (Ketchum ); Wanland v. Law Offices of Mastagni, Holstedt & Chiurazzi (2006) 141 Cal.App.4th 15, 22-23 [expenses of enforcing anti-SLAPP attorney fees award are recoverable under § 685.040] (Wanland ).)

When postjudgment enforcement costs are allowed, they become part of the principal amount of the judgment. (§ 685.070, subd. (d), § 685.090, subd. (a); David S. Karton, A Law Corp. v. Dougherty (2009) 171 Cal.App.4th 133, 147 (David S. Karton ).) Therefore, interest accrues upon those costs at the rate of ten percent per annum. (§ 685.010, subd. (a).)

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CCP&sectionNum=685.070.

(6) Attorney’s fees, if allowed by Section 685.040

I don't see how this is functionally any different from the sanctions in my case. It seems to be the exact same scenario. What I would like to do is file a "Memorandum of Costs After Judgment (MC-012)" for the costs they made me incur by pretending to agree to a settlement and then THEY changed the offer and said they wouldn't pay unless I signed some ridiculous thrown together nonsense. Then they said they wouldn't pay a legally owed debt. I believe that should suffice for reasonable and necessary costs of enforcing a judgment. If not there are

• Tweets by Mr Tomlinson mocking me having to pay (before the judgement)
  • "You have never started to think in your life, stlaker. How is Quasi paying for those loans, btw?"
  • "Fail again. Over and over. Forever. And tell Quasi his loans are going to default."
• A recorded interview conducted in October where Tomlinson said "I won't pay even if the judge orders it"
• Dozens of texts posted by others where Tomlinson has said that he doesn't owe me any money and will never pay. These could be subpoenaed if needed and added to the costs.

I am not exactly sure how many Memorandums you can file, but if there is no limit then I don't see why we wouldn't file one to recoup the costs from after the judgement so far. If there is then I need to think about that as I'm going to discuss with Jerry Jen, whom you referred and I spoke to a short while ago.


Thanks.

And his response

Hi Rahul/Mr Gibney ,


You may be right on this issue after all, but given the lack of authority interpreting CCP 1987.2, it is unclear. However, in interpreting the attorney’s fees provision in the parallel anti-SLAPP statute, the California Supreme Court held:


“Ketchum also asserts that Code of Civil Procedure section 685.040 precludes an award of ‘collection’ fees. He is incorrect. The statute provides that attorney fees incurred in enforcement efforts ‘are not included in costs collectible under this title unless otherwise provided by law.’ Under its provisions, a litigant entitled to costs for successfully enforcing a judgment is entitled to costs, but not attorney fees unless there is some other legal basis for such an award. Because Code of Civil Procedure section 425.16, subdivision (c) provides a legal right to attorney fees, they are a permissible item of costs. (See also Downey Cares v. Downey Community Development Com., supra, 196 Cal.App.3d at pp. 997–998, 242 Cal.Rptr. 272 [court may award attorney fees, including a fee enhancement, for all time spent, including on fee-related issues].)”

Ketchum v. Moses, 24 Cal. 4th 1122, 1141 (2001).


Thus, Ketchum seems to support your argument. I believe that any request for additional fees would need to be made by subsequent motion to the San Francisco Superior Court.

 

[Jenna]

He's doing the same shit he did in the lawsuit. EVERYONE MUST PAYYY!!!!!! He could have cherry-picked a few funsters that would have potentially satisfied Krinsky, but no, everyone had to suffer. Quasi. The guy who wrote "not good". All 60 Does owed him $50,000 at minimum, and all 60 would be going to prison afterwards.

Now he's dragging in the cops who just happened to show up. Officer Garrido, Officer Orlando, Officer Carleton, Officer Petersen, and Officer Vento are all specifically named just because they were on the calls with Evans. Their duty was apparently to tackle Sgt. Evans and arrest a fellow officer, as he wasn't following Patrick's orders to leave immediately.

100. Officer Garrido and Officer Orlando did not intervene to stop this illegal search and seizure.

124. Officer Petersen did not intervene to stop this illegal search and seizure.

132. Officer Vento did not intervene to stop this illegal seizure.

153. Defendant Plevak had a duty to intervene to stop an illegal search or seizure.
154. Defendant Plevak did not intervene but instead participated in the illegal search and seizure.

165. Defendants Kohler, Wasechek, and Mustafa had a duty to intervene to stop an illegal search and seizure.
166. Defendants Kohler, Wasechek, and Mustafa did not intervene but instead participated in the illegal search and seizure.

190. Defendant Carleton had a duty to intervene to stop an illegal search or seizure.
191. Defendant Carleton did not intervene but instead participated in the illegal search and seizure.

It's literally the same allegation for every officer (except Sgt Evans). You should have taken my side as opposed to your fellow officer, and you didn't, so now you must pay.

 

[Treat Yourself]

The day this goes to court and Pat ends up getting tackled by a bailiff will be the best day ever.

 

[RickReternal]

They rent the place for $99 per night, minus airbnb fees that's $70, I'm no mathoscientist but if they are renting the place 7 days a week, they are still only bringing in <$500/ per week. Pat lost 166 nights worth of rentals to Quasi. Doesn't sound like he should be able to afford his mornings off.

Math’s off by around $976k. Enjoy prison.

 

[RickReternal]

I don’t think theres any basis in the law for this but I feel like he thinks it increases his odds. Like putting bets on every level of the spread to make sure you win at least one. Can’t prove Sgt Evans was harassing you? Move onto the next officer.

The city/union have to now defend that many more cops, presumably, increasing costs. Could be he’s trying to put more pressure for a quick settlement. Also could be that he’s trying to improve optics. It was pretty questionable that after having 80028 wellness checks attended presumably by dozens of different cops, he’s suing a single black dude.

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

He's doing the same shit he did in the lawsuit. EVERYONE MUST PAYYY!!!!!! He could have cherry-picked a few funsters that would have potentially satisfied Krinsky, but no, everyone had to suffer. Quasi. The guy who wrote "not good". All 60 Does owed him $50,000 at minimum, and all 60 would be going to prison afterwards.

Now he's dragging in the cops who just happened to show up. Officer Garrido, Officer Orlando, Officer Carleton, Officer Petersen, and Officer Vento are all specifically named just because they were on the calls with Evans. Their duty was apparently to tackle Sgt. Evans and arrest a fellow officer, as he wasn't following Patrick's orders to leave immediately.



It's literally the same allegation for every officer (except Sgt Evans). You should have taken my side as opposed to your fellow officer, and you didn't, so now you must pay.

He got this idea from the George Floyd case - charging the officers for the crime of “standing there”