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Why do atheists celebrate Christmas? Why do they get married, have funerals in churches etc?

Jenna

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You obviously can’t read. I said I have no problem what they do, as long as we have a seperate form of marriage that is actually real in the faith, it has nothing to do with legality and rights. Let them do whatever the fuck they want elsewhere, that’s fine by me.

Sounds like you're suggesting we start some kind of super-marriage
 

NoBacon

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Sounds like you're suggesting we start some kind of super-marriage

Tired old ONA references when you haven’t got a real reply.

You can marry your karaoke machine if you want, it doesn’t matter to me one bit.
 

Sue Lightning

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This is just going back and forth because the point is getting so misconstrued…

Marriage is inherently different from its original religious framework due to the state making it a contract about rights

So in a hypothetical if I married a dude, yeah that wouldn’t be a legitimate marriage under god. But thats not what marriage is about anymore. The state has to grant me those rights because not doing so is discriminatory.

If the question were about what do YOU recognize as legitimate marriage thats a whole separate opinion. What I am talking about is what the STATE recognizes because that is ALL its about now. I could guarantee for 60% of Americans having equal rights as their spouse is more important than their relations being legitimate in the eyes of god.

So again, thats all i’m saying. I’m not saying gays should be recognized as a holy Christian marriage. I’m simply saying that your conception of what marriage should be is vastly different from what it currently is and what it will ever be in the future, and the reason it’s so different is because of the state and society.
 

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This is just going back and forth because the point is getting so misconstrued…

Marriage is inherently different from its original religious framework due to the state making it a contract about rights

So in a hypothetical if I married a dude, yeah that wouldn’t be a legitimate marriage under god. But thats not what marriage is about anymore. The state has to grant me those rights because not doing so is discriminatory.

If the question were about what do YOU recognize as legitimate marriage thats a whole separate opinion. What I am talking about is what the STATE recognizes because that is ALL its about now. I could guarantee for 60% of Americans having equal rights as their spouse is more important than their relations being legitimate in the eyes of god.

So again, thats all i’m saying. I’m not saying gays should be recognized as a holy Christian marriage. I’m simply saying that your conception of what marriage should be is vastly different from what it currently is and what it will ever be in the future, and the reason it’s so different is because of the state and society.

It has nothing to do with what I or anybody else views as what marriage is about now.

There’s what marriage is and there’s what it is now and what people want it to be.

They aren’t related and I don’t care about the latter, only the former.
 

Jenna

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Tired old ONA references when you haven’t got a real reply.

You can marry your karaoke machine if you want, it doesn’t matter to me one bit.

Why can't you just invent a "super-marriage" or something with all the stipulations you want, then? As society gets less religious, wouldn't it be smarter to pivot to something different that embraces all the tenants of your religion instead of just whining about gay weddings you aren't invited to?
 

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Why can't you just invent a "super-marriage" or something with all the stipulations you want, then? As society gets less religious, wouldn't it be smarter to pivot to something different that embraces all the tenants of your religion instead of just whining about gay weddings you aren't invited to?

I don’t care what society perverts religion into, I know what is written and that’s all I care about.

I’m not the one demanding recognition and the destruction of opposing view points.

It’s also completely laid out that less and less people will be true to the faith, and that even the elect are deceived and taken and you will be mocked, persecuted, hated and eventually killed if you don’t bend the knee to false prophets.

I know all this and I am completely at peace with it, it’s you guys who are angry for some reason. “Did God realllllly say that?” is the eldest trick in the book and you both fall for it still.
 

Jenna

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I’m not the one demanding recognition and the destruction of opposing view points.

I know all this and I am completely at peace with it, it’s you guys who are angry for some reason. “Did God realllllly say that?” is the eldest trick in the book and you both fall for it still.

You literally started a thread about how atheists shouldn't celebrate Christmas.
 

Jenna

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I asked why they do, nigga did you ever learn how to read?

Didn't you promise to stop making spergy Christian threads a couple days ago? I remember giving you a thumbs up Jenna but I guess that was a lie.
 

NoBacon

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Didn't you promise to stop making spergy Christian threads a couple days ago? I remember giving you a thumbs up Jenna but I guess that was a lie.

I just gotta couple, couple minutes free…
 

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DO YOU REMEMBAH…NO NO NO DO YOU REMEMBAH , WHEN LIKE A WEEK AGO I SAID I WANTED DESE POSTS CHRISTIAN FREE?
 

Turry Fawks

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Seriously though @NoBacon the state forces people to do things all the time. That's one of its primary functions. Don't be a coward.
 

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I genuinely don’t get it. I’m not gonna sperg about it to my family where I am now.

But they seem to worship Santa Claus, a toy commercial created by Coca Cola - and they play Taylor Swift Christmas songs and think traditional ones are “morbid” and “old fashioned” and they just generally glorify commercialism to the full extent.

So many people are like this now, why?

Why would you want to get married, a Christian principle, in the eyes of a God you don’t worship? Or be laid to rest in His Churches?

I’m not against having a good time, drinking and eating and playing - but isn’t that how these types live full time anyway?
People have been getting married since before Christianity. That’s dumb
 
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