The TRUTH re: Howard Stern Vs. Opie & Anthony

[WigwardFromSouthHampton]

Excellent thread. What a pathetic pussy Stern is. Opie really did have some balls and took major risks going after that wigged, kike-privileged cocksucker.

 

[dramamine]

Entitled Howard demands halls are clear of people so he can get to his office undisturbed.



Brave Opie enters Howard’s office area in an attempt to uncover the truth.

 

[CapeVerdean Porch Pirate]

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"Deborah takes the drug "Ecstasy" at the concert, and gets rushed to St. Vincent's Hospital. Where Howard and Alison have a screaming match at bedside."
This is the commotion one of Keith the Cops buddies saw and called in with the tip to the show

Deborah is the oldest she a big fat lezzie rabbi cantor who sings songs on youtube now

 

[KaNAMBLA Harris]

Hey dont these guys kind of look like Opie Anthony and Howard haha

 

[Wild]

It has come to my attention VICE is planning on doing another soft-shoe baby's first documentary about something I have too much autistic knowledge about. This is a preemptive thread attacking a show that I have not watched. But I'm willing to bet they will not include 100% of the full context.

Here is the actual timeline, not as much info on the satellite side but this should be almost everything on FM: @LingerLonger please fill any gaps.

1981 - Opie breaks into radio in Rochester as an 18 year old intern for Brother Wease, who is Opie's mentor. Stern was still doing Hop-Along Howie in obscurity up until a year or 2 into Opie's career.
Mid 1980's - Stern becomes highly successful. A day laborer named Anthony is a huge fanboy for Stern, who mocks Brother Wease's young daughter and Wease for getting cancer.
1994 - Opie gets a night show on Long Island, meets song parody man Anthony (huge Stern fanboy who imitates his voice for a few years)
- Anthony enters a contest on Stern, gets thrown out because he mentioned Opie's name. Stern bashes Opie after bababooey calls Opie a "copycat."
[Note: Neither Opie nor Anthony have uttered a negative word about Stern. We are now at Stern taking 2 huge shots at Opie with 0 response.]
1995 - Opie negotiates Anthony into a higher tax bracket and a new career in Boston. When Stern is in the news, O&A do mention him and joke as they would any celebrity, but they never trash him personally, like he does to them.
1998 - Opie brings Anthony with him to New York City. It takes 1 year for them to flush out music listeners, earn legit radio industry awards, and build an audience of creeps and retards, like Stern. O&A mentions they are being called copycats, thieves, fanboys, etc. by someone who works for the same company as them, and poke fun at Stern for "inventing everything."
1999 - Infinity (parent company of K-Rock & WNEW) suggests Howard mornings and O&A afternoons airing on the same stations all over U.S.A. in syndication, which Stern refuses and begins to openly trash O&A as thieves, copies, and clones on the air. However, when O&A attack back, Howard stops talking about them completely.
January 2000: - O&A openly say that they don't want to move to mornings because they are too pussy to compete against Howard Stern just yet.
March 2000 - After being told by Infinity to play nice with Howard, O&A tried to attend the press conference for Son of the Beach. Stern threw a bitch fit from his limo when someone told him O&A were in the crowd to support him. Stern refused to go into his own press conference, delaying it by half hour, until O&A got kicked out.
- Stern runs to WNEW boss Ken Stevens and "warns" him about O&A and tried to get them to never talk about Stern. Opie made this claim for years, and Howard confirmed it years later to Sean Hannity. Howard actually admitted he did this. Howard remained free to bash O&A on his show, which he did, but he rarely mentioned them by name, to keep them in obscurity.
May 2000 - Howard keeps trashing O&A without mentioning them by name, while O&A have been very vocal about the fact that they can't mention Howard's name without being threatened by their bosses.
December 2000 - Stern's dopey daughter overdoses on X at rival station Z-100 Christmas concert called Jingle-Ball. This was the climax of the feud, in my eyes, as it was the perfect irony... Howard attacked Wease's daughter in the 80's, 20 years later Wease's protege got his shots in and mocked Howard's daughter, which made Howard furious.
January 2001 - O&A come back from Christmas vacation told if they fuck up again or mention Howard they are fired on the spot. O&A go 2 years doing a show that improves in quality despite the addition of Jim Norton. Opie continues to carry the grudge against Howard for how he tries to neuter their show, and his past with Wease. The HYPOCRISY being the worst part. Anthony usually lays back like a total pussy scared for his job not mentioning Howard.
April 2002 - Stern stole and copied vernacular like "balloon knot" and a few song parodies he aired with O&A's voices laughing over the song DIRECTLY from their show, and they couldn't mention it. O&A tried to talk about him by calling him "Radio Edit." Stern steals another song parody and the idea of satirizing the new show "MTV Cribs" that O&A were already doing with their own retards. O&A do call this out on the air despite the gag order.
August 2002 - WNEW fires O&A, which Howard celebrates and convinces Infinity to keep them under contract so they cannot compete directly against him in mornings for another company. Howard's strategy was to keep O&A off radio so their names cooled off. This is known to be a fact because Infinity proposed releasing O&A from their contract in 2002 if they signed a waiver agreeing to never, in perpetuity, ever mention Stern or any Infinity employee by name anywhere. They of course did not sign this dopey agreement and just sat out the contract.
August 2004 - O&A sign with XM and their first live show back happens on October 2004... 2 days after their first show, Howard announces that he has signed with SIRIUS Satellite.
- Anthony finally starts ranting about Howard now that there will be no repercussions to his career.
January 2006 - O&A mock Stern's other daughter for doing some horrible play, airing the audio

Opie is an autist, but he had a legitimate gripe with trying to rally against that bore yenta Howard Stern. Fuck Stern.

 

[DMAN]

Deborah is the oldest she a big fat lezzie rabbi cantor who sings songs on youtube now

Another funny aspect of this… Howard got into a big argument with his wife on the air about a previous Jingle Ball concert, and how his daughter was demanding the tickets and his wife felt entitled to them, calling people up and asking for freebies from rival stations. He went on air complaining about how it made him look bad. Definitely had to be one of the final nails in the coffin of his marriage.

 

[LingerLonger]

Another funny aspect of this… Howard got into a big argument with his wife on the air about a previous Jingle Ball concert, and how his daughter was demanding the tickets and his wife felt entitled to them, calling people up and asking for freebies from rival stations. He went on air complaining about how it made him look bad. Definitely had to be one of the final nails in the coffin of his marriage.

It was rumored that Howard got caught cheating during Private Parts multiple times by different people. Like a random security guard would see him going into his trailer with a girl playing a stripper. Or he would have his private security bring one of the actresses to his hotel room late nights when shooting would run into the night. And that same actresses would then wave to Howard's private security during the day because she was familiar with their faces and was meeting them nightly to be taken to Howard's hotel room. Grillo told people he thought Howard was sleeping with at least one of the actresses because of that.

Howard was rumored to have slept with Teresa Lynn, the naked women who has an orgasm while riding on her speakers. Big Pussy infamously mentioned it on Stern during a Sopranos related interview. Howard kept pestering Big Pussy if he sleeps with actresses on set, and so the actor just blurted out "Oh yeah Teresa Lynn says you banged her during Private Parts" to the glee of Jackie and Robin. This segment never made it into replays. But most hardcore Stern fans remember how hilarious this exchange was.

And Mary McCormack, the actresses who played his wife, was another rumored affair. As they were around each other for months filming various scenes. And her acting was awful yet they kept her in the movie rather than recast someone who could actually play the part. Also Ralph was bringing Howard condoms for his private trailer that was parked on set. And Howard's wife went through his belongings one day, and found the condoms. And angrily confronted Howard on it. And the only excuse he was able to come up with on the spot was "Ralph did it as a joke". Leading to Howard marching Ralph on the air, making Ralph tell some lie about how he "pranked" Howard by putting condoms in his trailer as a private joke. Ralph profusely apologized on air but by then it was too late.

The biggest rumor that went around years after Private Parts aired was that Howard's wife tried to file for divorce during the filming of the movie. But the lawyers of the movie, not Howard's lawyers, but the lawyers for the producers somehow intercepted the filing and shut it down. Ivan Reitman reportedly made Howard talk to him in person and told him if his wife divorced him before the movie came out he would be on the hook for the losses of the film. So Howard's wife kept silent until the movie was out and tried to patch things up for the kids.

Best part? Private Parts bombed anyways. It was promoted like crazy. Stern was on every single talk show day and night. The radio stations in basically all markets played advertisements for it nonstop. His morning radio show became Private Parts Radio. It was an Ivan Reitman film, the guy who made Ghostbusters, Kindergarten Cop, Twins, Junior, and all sorts of big money family crap. So the money was there for production and promotion. The film was made for $30million with probably the same budget for advertising, so $60million total. Meaning it needed to hit at least $120million to break even. Yet even with the massive advertising it made $40million.

To put the budget into perspective. All time classic and massively influential science fiction film Dark City had a budget of $27million and came out the same year. And that movie sold its set to another a film that came out a year later called 'The Matrix'. If Howard had gotten divorced and did a bitter "I hate my wife" divorce tour for the movie. And said that the movie was a love letter to his wife who just left him. It might have gone down as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

 

[Rudderman]

IIRC the condom thing was that Howard's wife found condoms on a list of items Howard's assistant (some woman; I forget her name) was supposed to pick up for him before his flight to wherever Private Parts was filming, and Ralph was roped into it to fall on his sword by claiming he made her add them to the list as a joke. Alison didn't buy it, of course.

Edit: It might have been a list of items he wanted in his trailer at the filming location.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

Also Ralph was bringing Howard condoms for his private trailer that was parked on set. And Howard's wife went through his belongings one day, and found the condoms. And angrily confronted Howard on it. And the only excuse he was able to come up with on the spot was "Ralph did it as a joke". Leading to Howard marching Ralph on the air, making Ralph tell some lie about how he "pranked" Howard by putting condoms in his trailer as a private joke. Ralph profusely apologized on air but by then it was too late.

Unless there were two similar instance you’re kind of wrong here. Alison found a list on his assistant’s desk in their house and the “Howard’s needs for the set list” included toiletries and condoms. He berated Ralph on air and Ralph claimed it was a joke. Howard said he didn’t use any of the brands on the list. Ralph claimed he thought Howard wanted a list of good products to use and added condoms as a goof. Howard said his assistant told him that his wife saw the list so he gave some good guy speech about how he immediately went to her when he got home and explained himself. Alison called in and said it looked like a list of Ralph’s products. It was an odd conversation and Ralph apologized profusely. I didn’t know the movie did so poorly. That’s really funny actually. “We’re the Beatles of radio!”

 

[LingerLonger]

I didn’t know the movie did so poorly. That’s really funny actually. “We’re the Beatles of radio!”

Private Parts definitely exposed that Howard wasn't nearly as popular as he reported. And that he would never have mainstream appeal either. It jaded a lot of his fans as well, as if you saw the film in the theater it was almost always to an empty room. Stern was selling his movie as being this amazing listener experience where Stern fans would congregate and see the Godfather of radio movies. But you were lucky if there were more than two people in the theater with you the minute the opening weekend was over.

Howard was once asked on air how much the film made and he said "$80million" which is a lie of double the actual amount. Also the radio shows leading up to Private Parts were literally about the film nonstop. Endless talk about the movie to promote it. Fans were sick of it. The week after Private Parts aired Stern took a vacation and was off air. The next week he got on the air and didn't mention Private Parts more than in passing as he was obviously embarrassed that the movie wasn't some massive hit like he predicted. But years later Artie Lange would incinerate all traces of Private Part's bombing with his monumental and spectacular failure of Beer League.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

Private Parts definitely exposed that Howard wasn't nearly as popular as he reported. And that he would never have mainstream appeal either. It jaded a lot of his fans as well, as if you saw the film in the theater it was almost always to an empty room. Stern was selling his movie as being this amazing listener experience where Stern fans would congregate and see the Godfather of radio movies. But you were lucky if there were more than two people in the theater with you the minute the opening weekend was over.

Howard was once asked on air how much the film made and he said "$80million" which is a lie of double the actual amount. Also the radio shows leading up to Private Parts were literally about the film nonstop. Endless talk about the movie to promote it. Fans were sick of it. The week after Private Parts aired Stern took a vacation and was off air. The next week he got on the air and didn't mention Private Parts more than in passing as he was obviously embarrassed that the movie wasn't some massive hit like he predicted. But years later Artie Lange would incinerate all traces of Private Part's bombing with his monumental and spectacular failure of Beer League.

I like Beer League and I was always shocked that it did so poorly when he got to plug it on Stern. I always found it funny that Artie flat out told Howard he’d most likely leave if he got a successful sitcom.

 

[TheGhostOfBernellTrammell]

New dman thread

 

[LingerLonger]

I like Beer League and I was always shocked that it did so poorly when he got to plug it on Stern. I always found it funny that Artie flat out told Howard he’d most likely leave if he got a successful sitcom.

No joke. More people would see someone like Burr, Rogan, or Louis CK on any random given weekend in a large comedy club, based on O&A plugs, than Artie Lange got for Beer League nationally despite plugging on Stern day and night. I truly believe that Howard never had the audience of O&A even at his peak. His fans when he had to count on them outside of the show were nonexistent. Meanwhile O&A mention something once on their show and it becomes the top internet search that day.

I still can't believe that Beer League caused so much chaos. Artie's life spiraled out of control because of it. And it impacted the Stern show permanently. Basically lead to Joe Buck Live getting destroyed. Artie leaving Stern eventually because of the heroin habit he developed. Artie burning his bridges with all of his friends especially Nick Dipaolo. Artie having a turn with Anthony. Crazy.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

No joke. More people would see someone like Burr, Rogan, or Louis CK on any random given weekend in a large comedy club, based on O&A plugs, than Artie Lange got for Beer League nationally despite plugging on Stern day and night. I truly believe that Howard never had the audience of O&A even at his peak. His fans when he had to count on them outside of the show were nonexistent. Meanwhile O&A mention something once on their show and it becomes the top internet search that day.

I still can't believe that Beer League caused so much chaos. Artie's life spiraled out of control because of it. And it impacted the Stern show permanently. Basically lead to Joe Buck Live getting destroyed. Artie leaving Stern eventually because of the heroin habit he developed. Artie burning his bridges with all of his friends especially Nick Dipaolo. Artie having a turn with Anthony. Crazy.

Didn’t Howard have better ratings than OnA though? OnA having a more loyal and rabid fan base makes sense to me though. Joe Buck live was going to die on the vine anyways. It was a sports show so why were there two actors and Artie on the panel? Nick getting fired from his own DirecTV show was pretty funny even though I like Nick.

 

[Jims_Maroon_Pants]

The best part is, they went after 2 different daughters. The two older girls were the ones they went after. His third daughter was still a toddler at this time, I believe. At least she was in the movie in 1997. So only 3 years after that.

It was so good, I still randomly yell "my vagiiiiina!" At times

 

[Jims_Maroon_Pants]

Another funny aspect of this… Howard got into a big argument with his wife on the air about a previous Jingle Ball concert, and how his daughter was demanding the tickets and his wife felt entitled to them, calling people up and asking for freebies from rival stations. He went on air complaining about how it made him look bad. Definitely had to be one of the final nails in the coffin of his marriage.

Stuttering John is a giant POS but he's absolutely right in calling Howard a cheapskate. How do you only give popcorn tins to your staff?

 

[DMAN]

Howard's Wife Goes To Competitor's Concert. 12/18/98. 8:00am
Howard was a little pissed off about something his wife had done. Alison went to this ''Jingle Ball'' concert that New York's Z-100 held. Alison is a fan of the station and wanted to go to the ball with her kids. She got tickets through one of the guys that works at Howard's station but
Howard was upset that she's supporting the competition.

Howard knew that she was going and didn't say anything to her. Howard had Alison on the phone and tried to explain to her why he was upset but she didn't want to talk. She hung up on him. Howard went on to discuss it for a little while longer and she ended up calling back. Howard apologized and said he didn't want to be controlling. He just figured Alison would know what he was feeling. Alison said after seeing the DJ's she'll never listen to Z-100 again. This conversation went on for over 45 minutes! Eventually the two of them worked it all out and wished each other a merry Christmas.

Howard Talks About His Separation From His Wife. 10/25/99. 6:10am
Howard and his wife have legally separated. A lot of people thought he wouldn't show up to work this morning but he started off the show saying that he's not in seclusion and ''All broads.. please call...'' He told Robin she'd be in charge of the line of women. That was the easy part for Howard to say. He soon went on to explain how hard this has been for both he and his wife ALISON. He said he hadn't cried since college and he finally shed some tears this weekend. He actually spent more time with Alison over the weekend than he has in recent months. He had a party to attend and he went with his wife. He said that his father-in-law told him that he will always be his son-in-law. Howard explained that being ''legally separated'' means that they're no longer a married couple but they're not divorced. He and Alison went through a mediator to work out the details instead of letting a lawyer drain them of every last cent. The reason for the split? - Howard said that his ''workaholic'' attitude has a lot to do with it. The people who are speculating that it was all of the strippers and bare breasted chicks in the studio are wrong. Howard has a lot of things going on and he wasn't spending a lot of time doing things with Alison and that led to this. The two of them have been in marriage counseling for the past year but that wasn't working. This separation was still up in the air just a few short days ago. They finally decided to do it and had their spokesperson Dan Klores make the announcement Friday night.

Howard said that he and Alison decided that they need a break and he hopes that they can eventually work things out. He says that she's still the best friend he has and no one is closer to him. Howard read a bunch of articles that were written about the situation and he said only one guy, Joel Block, got the picture. Block said that the problem was with intimacy. Howard said that's basically right.

Bloated Attorney Dominic Barbara called in and said this whole thing is very surreal and he's very saddened by it. John Popper of Blues Traveler also called in later in the morning and said that he just found out about it and was also saddened by it.

This separation sent shock waves through other relationships on the show. Stuttering John and his wife had an argument over it and Gary had a little run in with his wife after she overheard him talking to Howard on the phone. A lot of articles are saying that this break-up will have a chain reaction causing many relationships to break up. Howard has always bragged about being married to his wife so long and now it's all gone up in smoke. People are speculating that many couples will have second thoughts about their relationships. Many people thought that Howard would never get separated from Alison. Now that the unbreakable force has been broken, others may follow.

You heard that right. Other people are going to get divorced... To rip him off... HOO HOO!

Howard's Daughter Deborah "overdid it" at JingleBall 2000. 12/07/00. 6:05am
Howard said he had a busy day yesterday. He had to go out to Long Island to visit the kids. He ended up disciplining the kids and it wasn't fun. He said ''It's Long Island one day, therapy the next day.'' He said he can't wait for the therapy secession today. Howard didn't say what the kids did but he had to yell at them to get his point across. Robin asked if he had to yell or if it could have been discussed. He said it had to be yelled. He also said he called someone else to see if he was right for getting pissed. Whoever he called told him he was right.

Born in May 1986, Deborah was 14 years old when she overdosed on Ecstacy at Jingle Ball 2000.

In the 1980's Howard poked fun at Brother Wease's young daughter for her looks... In 2000 Opie & Anthony poked fun at Howie for being a failed husband and daddy. Couldn't even get a hold of his kids for 14 years before they're OD'ing in front of a live audience while smash hits from 98 Degrees and MYA blair on the cheap Behringer speakers.

O&A took their shots. Fair play. And Hoe Boy. Howie DID NOT Like that very much. Not at all, to be perfectly honest witcha.

Wha happen? I thought we were all havin fun?

 

[The Sue Deal]

Howard's Wife Goes To Competitor's Concert. 12/18/98. 8:00am
Howard was a little pissed off about something his wife had done. Alison went to this ''Jingle Ball'' concert that New York's Z-100 held. Alison is a fan of the station and wanted to go to the ball with her kids. She got tickets through one of the guys that works at Howard's station but
Howard was upset that she's supporting the competition.

What a pathetic fucking “man”. It’s like a guy who works at Walmart getting mad his wife went to Home Depot. I’m not a big Howie listener / fan but from what i’ve heard over the years he came off as a bigger closet fag than Anthony. Supposedly he would lock himself in his basement going into AOL chatrooms pretending to be a woman. He once threw a tantrum and kicked his wife because she was rolling around in bed too much, and now he doesn’t even sleep in the same room as his current wife.

 

[satanssockpuppet]

Private Parts definitely exposed that Howard wasn't nearly as popular as he reported. And that he would never have mainstream appeal either. It jaded a lot of his fans as well, as if you saw the film in the theater it was almost always to an empty room. Stern was selling his movie as being this amazing listener experience where Stern fans would congregate and see the Godfather of radio movies. But you were lucky if there were more than two people in the theater with you the minute the opening weekend was over.

Howard was once asked on air how much the film made and he said "$80million" which is a lie of double the actual amount. Also the radio shows leading up to Private Parts were literally about the film nonstop. Endless talk about the movie to promote it. Fans were sick of it. The week after Private Parts aired Stern took a vacation and was off air. The next week he got on the air and didn't mention Private Parts more than in passing as he was obviously embarrassed that the movie wasn't some massive hit like he predicted. But years later Artie Lange would incinerate all traces of Private Part's bombing with his monumental and spectacular failure of Beer League.

This is 100% accurate. For most of 1996 into 1997, that gay movie was all he talked about, day after day after day. And he never ran long during that time either, which he almost always used to do. People would be lining up to see it over and over again, the crowds would be acting out scenes in the aisles, no one would believe how hilarious it was and so forth. Every regular Stern listener was just itching for it to be over with already, as it was just insufferable.

Then it was released to widespread apathy and yawns. No one gave a shit about his gay toy movie, and it came and went before he even came back from vacation. So then everyone was anticipating how he'd handle it, speculating on who he'd blame, who he'd rage against and etc. Then he came back from vacation and, as you said, he barely mentioned it. The whole thing just seemed like a massive, stupid waste of time, and his credibility was dented. That was the end of his rise. He was still popular, but he'd already peaked.

 

[CapeVerdean Porch Pirate]

It was rumored that Howard got caught cheating during Private Parts multiple times by different people. Like a random security guard would see him going into his trailer with a girl playing a stripper. Or he would have his private security bring one of the actresses to his hotel room late nights when shooting would run into the night. And that same actresses would then wave to Howard's private security during the day because she was familiar with their faces and was meeting them nightly to be taken to Howard's hotel room. Grillo told people he thought Howard was sleeping with at least one of the actresses because of that.

Howard was rumored to have slept with Teresa Lynn, the naked women who has an orgasm while riding on her speakers. Big Pussy infamously mentioned it on Stern during a Sopranos related interview. Howard kept pestering Big Pussy if he sleeps with actresses on set, and so the actor just blurted out "Oh yeah Teresa Lynn says you banged her during Private Parts" to the glee of Jackie and Robin. This segment never made it into replays. But most hardcore Stern fans remember how hilarious this exchange was.

And Mary McCormack, the actresses who played his wife, was another rumored affair. As they were around each other for months filming various scenes. And her acting was awful yet they kept her in the movie rather than recast someone who could actually play the part. Also Ralph was bringing Howard condoms for his private trailer that was parked on set. And Howard's wife went through his belongings one day, and found the condoms. And angrily confronted Howard on it. And the only excuse he was able to come up with on the spot was "Ralph did it as a joke". Leading to Howard marching Ralph on the air, making Ralph tell some lie about how he "pranked" Howard by putting condoms in his trailer as a private joke. Ralph profusely apologized on air but by then it was too late.

The biggest rumor that went around years after Private Parts aired was that Howard's wife tried to file for divorce during the filming of the movie. But the lawyers of the movie, not Howard's lawyers, but the lawyers for the producers somehow intercepted the filing and shut it down. Ivan Reitman reportedly made Howard talk to him in person and told him if his wife divorced him before the movie came out he would be on the hook for the losses of the film. So Howard's wife kept silent until the movie was out and tried to patch things up for the kids.

Best part? Private Parts bombed anyways. It was promoted like crazy. Stern was on every single talk show day and night. The radio stations in basically all markets played advertisements for it nonstop. His morning radio show became Private Parts Radio. It was an Ivan Reitman film, the guy who made Ghostbusters, Kindergarten Cop, Twins, Junior, and all sorts of big money family crap. So the money was there for production and promotion. The film was made for $30million with probably the same budget for advertising, so $60million total. Meaning it needed to hit at least $120million to break even. Yet even with the massive advertising it made $40million.

To put the budget into perspective. All time classic and massively influential science fiction film Dark City had a budget of $27million and came out the same year. And that movie sold its set to another a film that came out a year later called 'The Matrix'. If Howard had gotten divorced and did a bitter "I hate my wife" divorce tour for the movie. And said that the movie was a love letter to his wife who just left him. It might have gone down as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

Then of course there was the time he bought the stripper a bmw.....

There's the weird time line discrepancies of when he started seeing Beth. John Hopper wrote in his book sometime after private parts was released he met Beth on the set of Letterman. She was one of the chorus girls who do bullshit when Dave did bits. Hopper said he mention sterns name and she slyly told him she was sterns secret girlfriend. This was before any mention of separation much less divorce.