I Wanna See the Courthouse Movie! - Part 3

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FurBurger

Don't call me daughter; not fit to...
I'm sure that is covered by attorney-client privilege. I don't think you can compel someone's lawyer to give up information about their client.
Legal advice is covered by client-attorney privilege; in most places fees are not. California, of course, needs to do things differently, so the terms of a contract are privileged there - but I don't know enough about the law to know if that's just the terms ("rules") laid out in the contract, or whether it covers payments as well.

I also don't know if client-attorney privilege covers the SFWA in this matter, since Pat was the client and they were just footing the bill. If Pat's interests and the SFWA's interests in the case differed, should the attorney act in their interest or Pat's? Because they don't need to worry about the SFWA if they aren't a client. And if the client is on the hook for Quasi's money, and the SFWA's payments are covered by client-attorney privilege does that mean they're a client and he can get his money from the SFWA?

Is that why they're fighting so hard to keep their participation in the case under wraps? Is that why Jerry didn't fight it out in court - he's got the details via some sneaky oriental back-door?
 
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So democrat Schulman fucked over Pat and republican Ulmer sided with SFWA?
I think he relied on his cheap Asian labor. Fixed the sanctions issue to slap the coolie a little.
Because they don't need to worry about the SFWA if they aren't a client. And if the client is on the hook for Quasi's money, and the SFWA's payments are covered by client-attorney privilege does that mean they're a client and he can get his money from the SFWA?

Is that why they're fighting so hard to keep their participation in the case under wraps? Is that why Jerry didn't fight it out in court - he's got the details via some sneaky oriental back-door?
I don't think their past sponsorship of a lawsuit exposes them to the consequences of Pat's choice as a litigant advised by counsel to pursue subpoenas in the context of that lawsuit. I'm also not sure there's anything Jen is directly entitled to obtain from them regarding the lawsuit, especially if it's just SFWA's sunken cost by now. Jen could inadvertently get to find out in the course of needing to determine how Pat is going to pay Quasi.
 

Proud Boy 1

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If Pat's interests and the SFWA's interests in the case differed, should the attorney act in their interest or Pat's?
Pat's name is on it. That's all that matters. If I remember correctly early on Bresto asked for logs of defamatory statements made against SFWA members in general. Quasi's lawyer told him to fuck off and they can file their own suit of they want.
does that mean they're a client and he can get his money from the SFWA?
According to some shit I read on the internet, there are some obscure "piercing the corporate veil" laws on the books, so maybe. Though the recent quash was a setback
Is that why they're fighting so hard to keep their participation in the case under wraps
The easier explanation is that the SFWA is an organization of retards run by retards and also funded by retards. If the retards who fund it find out that a newbie cis White male was written a blank check to file a laughably impossible lolsuit, they may see a reduction in retard revenue
Is that why Jerry didn't fight it out in court - he's got the details via some sneaky oriental back-door?
Considering the emojis used by tech admin of this website combined with the fact that Big Dick Jerry conceded without arguing despite having a good case, I think there might be some good news in that regard
 
Considering the emojis used by tech admin of this website combined with the fact that Big Dick Jerry conceded without arguing despite having a good case, I think there might be some good news in that regard
If this was a deliberate red herring and JJ knew he wouldn't win, knew he could get the same info elsewhere, and just wanted to run Fatso's bill up another $5k I will print out his headshot and record a tribute video.
 

FurBurger

Don't call me daughter; not fit to...
I don't think their past sponsorship of a lawsuit exposes them to the consequences of Pat's choice as a litigant advised by counsel to pursue subpoenas in the context of that lawsuit.
You're right, but I don't think it's about Pat's choices in the matter. Quasi has the right to know about Pat's financial position, in order to both recover his money and treat Pat fairly in the eyes of the law. I believe whatever deal he comes up with has to meet the approval of a judge as being not too unfair to Pat; he can't just order Pat to donate a kidney.

So, was the SFWA money a gift? A loan? Was it paid to Pat or straight to the lawyers? Is there some sort of fringe benefits tax due on it; and is that up to the SFWA to pay, or Pat? If Quasi decides that Pat gets $120K+ every year in fringe benefits from the SFWA, plus his insurance income, it'll produce a repayment plan that'll fuck Pat hard. If Quasi comes up with a deal based solely on Pat's insurance income but it leaves out $40k of IRS fringe benefits tax which Pat needs to pay, that'll also fuck over Pat. Same if Quasi's deal leaves out Pat's repayments on his $120k loan from the SFWA.

I'm assuming by the way that Jerry caved on this, that he's already got the info.
 

covidcumia

The Dutch are FAGS!!!
You're right, but I don't think it's about Pat's choices in the matter. Quasi has the right to know about Pat's financial position, in order to both recover his money and treat Pat fairly in the eyes of the law. I believe whatever deal he comes up with has to meet the approval of a judge as being not too unfair to Pat; he can't just order Pat to donate a kidney.

So, was the SFWA money a gift? A loan? Was it paid to Pat or straight to the lawyers? Is there some sort of fringe benefits tax due on it; and is that up to the SFWA to pay, or Pat? If Quasi decides that Pat gets $120K+ every year in fringe benefits from the SFWA, plus his insurance income, it'll produce a repayment plan that'll fuck Pat hard. If Quasi comes up with a deal based solely on Pat's insurance income but it leaves out $40k of IRS fringe benefits tax which Pat needs to pay, that'll also fuck over Pat. Same if Quasi's deal leaves out Pat's repayments on his $120k loan from the SFWA.

I'm assuming by the way that Jerry caved on this, that he's already got the info.
Just noticed this post and wanted to add, what could Pat's diseased, alcoholic, diabetes, kidney get on the organ market anyway? 15 bucks for a study maybe, otherwise it's as useless to anybody as it will be to him in 3-4 years.
 

KissesCumia

Pen eating Jen
Hey guys, let me just say I got a lot of friends, I know a lawyer over there in California who knows Jerry through conferences and such. Guy's a shark, believe you me. Funny too, he'd totally get our sense of humor and will probably become a Patposter after all this is done. I can't reveal my sources but let's just say I'm feeling good about Jerry...
 

FurBurger

Don't call me daughter; not fit to...
WWAW this?

Is Quasi fucked? Pat is obviously a worthless human with nothing of value in his possession
No, he's fine. JJ will have subpoenaed all of Pat's sources of funds - publishers, his bank, the IRS, his agent, whatever insurance he sells for a living, that shitty UFO show he was on - and the SFWA are the only one who pushed back on admitting a financial relationship with Pat.

At some point he'll go back to court with a plan for Pat to pay Quasi back, the court will rubberstamp it as Pat's not participaTing in the process and so won't object, and hopefully the court will throw in a bench warrant so that Pat and Nikki can be arrested for contempt of court and dragged to California to explain themselves to the judge. I'm assuming Pat's website, Instagram and Twitter accounts will be transferred to Quasi on or around that date.

Also, Admin's suggested there's something going on with the SFWA that meant JJ could drop the SFWA subpoena, so we've got that to look forward to.

As for Pat not having any assets, Quasi will also get a taste of any future earnings; so as long as Pat or Nikki's eating Quasi will get a taste.
 

Harry Kilmer

What was your 40 at 22, did you play a sport?
No, he's fine. JJ will have subpoenaed all of Pat's sources of funds - publishers, his bank, the IRS, his agent, whatever insurance he sells for a living, that shitty UFO show he was on - and the SFWA are the only one who pushed back on admitting a financial relationship with Pat.

At some point he'll go back to court with a plan for Pat to pay Quasi back, the court will rubberstamp it as Pat's not participaTing in the process and so won't object, and hopefully the court will throw in a bench warrant so that Pat and Nikki can be arrested for contempt of court and dragged to California to explain themselves to the judge. I'm assuming Pat's website, Instagram and Twitter accounts will be transferred to Quasi on or around that date.

Also, Admin's suggested there's something going on with the SFWA that meant JJ could drop the SFWA subpoena, so we've got that to look forward to.

As for Pat not having any assets, Quasi will also get a taste of any future earnings; so as long as oPat or Nikki's eating Quasi will get a taste.
Does Quasi really have a taste for burned Wellington though?
 
No, he's fine. JJ will have subpoenaed all of Pat's sources of funds - publishers, his bank, the IRS, his agent, whatever insurance he sells for a living, that shitty UFO show he was on - and the SFWA are the only one who pushed back on admitting a financial relationship with Pat.

At some point he'll go back to court with a plan for Pat to pay Quasi back, the court will rubberstamp it as Pat's not participaTing in the process and so won't object, and hopefully the court will throw in a bench warrant so that Pat and Nikki can be arrested for contempt of court and dragged to California to explain themselves to the judge. I'm assuming Pat's website, Instagram and Twitter accounts will be transferred to Quasi on or around that date.

Also, Admin's suggested there's something going on with the SFWA that meant JJ could drop the SFWA subpoena, so we've got that to look forward to.

As for Pat not having any assets, Quasi will also get a taste of any future earnings; so as long as Pat or Nikki's eating Quasi will get a taste.
They could force Pat to turn over his social media accounts?
 
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