Fuck All Kiwis

[damitjenkins20cars]

More assuming a bunch of stuff by me, but whatever. Besides his obvious employment history gap, judging by the comments he's made about his tech stack, he's stuck somewhere in mid-late 2000s. He was mentioning multi master mysql DBs, sshing to things by hand. Has he ever mentioned anything about cicd/devops? Terraform? Ansible? Chef?

There's still a huge market for the maintenance of legacy on-prem servers. Even big cloud-based saas companies are moving some things back on prem due to costs. However, those systems still want someone who can work in a team. How much project management is Null familiar will? Can he work in an agile environment? Can he create Arch specs, do documentation? Do requirements gathering?

There is a talent gap, but they are looking for people who can function in a team, even as a contractor you still need those soft skills. The "one man army" , method even if impressive, is not what tech is looking for now.

Has he ever mentioned anything about working with docker? k8s? Any devops at all? Any infrastructure as code? He uses telegram as his customer success portal, but does he have any SRE practices? Any monitoring or alerting? Does he have any SOC (security operations center), experience? Doesn't sound like he's pulling in logs into a central server? Does he have splunk or even an ELK stack is all open source? When he was hacked it looked like he was grepping server logs from an ssh terminal.

It seems like this was all built by him. How well would he do working on someone else's architecture and coming up to speed quickly to contribute? It's one things to manage and troubleshoot shit you built yourself, but doing that and then extending someone else's system is needed for most jobs.


Without work history or portfolios of enterprise systems, he will never get a senior (or above), position. In my completely uninformed opinion, he's set up an elaborate and highly functional proof of concept, but not an enterprise-level sustainable architecture.

 

[PogromStallone]

Literally every single funny thing in regards to Patrick originates from here. I can't think of one thing that the retards at KF has done. They wouldn't even know who he was if it wasn't for us.

 

[HotDogJoe]

Literally every single funny thing in regards to Patrick originates from here. I can't think of one thing that the retards at KF has done. They wouldn't even know who he was if it wasn't for us.

Tbf, most of them acknowledge this. You just get the odd cunt or two in that thread like this person and the Fluere faggot.

 

[WifeStoreWill]

More assuming a bunch of stuff by me, but whatever. Besides his obvious employment history gap, judging by the comments he's made about his tech stack, he's stuck somewhere in mid-late 2000s. He was mentioning multi master mysql DBs, sshing to things by hand. Has he ever mentioned anything about cicd/devops? Terraform? Ansible? Chef?

There's still a huge market for the maintenance of legacy on-prem servers. Even big cloud-based saas companies are moving some things back on prem due to costs. However, those systems still want someone who can work in a team. How much project management is Null familiar will? Can he work in an agile environment? Can he create Arch specs, do documentation? Do requirements gathering?

There is a talent gap, but they are looking for people who can function in a team, even as a contractor you still need those soft skills. The "one man army" , method even if impressive, is not what tech is looking for now.

Has he ever mentioned anything about working with docker? k8s? Any devops at all? Any infrastructure as code? He uses telegram as his customer success portal, but does he have any SRE practices? Any monitoring or alerting? Does he have any SOC (security operations center), experience? Doesn't sound like he's pulling in logs into a central server? Does he have splunk or even an ELK stack is all open source? When he was hacked it looked like he was grepping server logs from an ssh terminal.

It seems like this was all built by him. How well would he do working on someone else's architecture and coming up to speed quickly to contribute? It's one things to manage and troubleshoot shit you built yourself, but doing that and then extending someone else's system is needed for most jobs.


Without work history or portfolios of enterprise systems, he will never get a senior (or above), position. In my completely uninformed opinion, he's set up an elaborate and highly functional proof of concept, but not an enterprise-level sustainable architecture.

I’m glad Quasi brought you in to handle this shit. Hard to believe some high school biology teacher would know all that stuff.

 

[Jack_Horner]

If he changed his name he could get a job easily. IT has a massive talent gap currently and is hiring everywhere. So without knowing the situation its likely that he either hasn't really put the effort in, was applying to the wrong jobs, or just isn't very good and was looking to come in as a senior engineer with no work history or portfolio.

As crazy as this sounds, I know *three* people who've changed their names and work in I.T.

And that's just the ones that I'm aware of:

One of them absolutely refuses to talk about it and will basically ghost me for months on end if I bring it up, so I stopped asking 10+ years ago. My best guess is that they changed their name because they were involved in an online scam. (They were definitely involved in an online scam, so that's not speculation.)

The 2nd of them it's a little more mysterious, it may have been due to an ugly divorce. I get the impression they were irritated that their ex kept using their last name, so they changed their last name.

The 3rd of them is the weirdest of all. They went to prison for "cyber crimes." It was in Reuters and everything. When they got out of prison, it took all of six weeks for them to find a job. Which really says something about the state of the USA right now. This person literally commit a cyber crime so heinous, they went to prison for it, but they had little or no issue finding a job once they were released. But there are guys who got canceled for making a dick joke who wound up completely unemployable. (Remember the dude that got fired for making a dick joke at a Python convention?)

The 3rd person mentioned above, they just fell off the face of the earth entirely. So I'm 99% sure they changed their name. I used to have them on my social media and they just evaporated one day.

 

[Jack_Horner]

@Jack_Horner , comment?

YMMV but I avoid anything popular like the plague. There's a bunch of talk in this thread about webapps and shit like that, but I avoid anything that can be farmed out to body shops overseas. I don't give a shit about Javascript or HTML or whatever open source language that people write webapps in these days. There's just too many people chasing those jobs.

My bread and butter is proprietary software that you can't find anyone else who knows how to do it. As I see it:

• If you're doing something open source, like Debian or Puppet or whatever, there's a million dudes out there just like you, and many of them live in parts of the world where they're willing to work for $15-$20 an hour
• If you're doing something closed source, obscure, old, or ideally "all of the above", there will often be less than 100 people on the entire planet who know how to do that thing. So you basically become a "human insurance policy." I can't even count the number of jobs I've had where I was hired to do something and learned that they were trying to fill the role for three months or more, and there were zero applicants whatsoever. I don't do Cobol, but you get the general idea. If you're one of the last 100 people writing Cobol, you'll have work for as long as you choose to do it. And you're nearly un-firable because it's better to have someone around who's doing the work slowly, then have nobody doing it at all. Of course, there's an obvious downside here: there aren't many jobs, and your employer is constantly trying to figure out how to replace the software so that they can get rid of a "single point of failure." This isn't me, but here's an example of what I mean: The operating system "AIX" is mostly dead. According to a search I just did, Linux is 16,000% more popular than AIX(!!!) But I used to work with a dude who was responsible for all the AIX systems for a Blue Chip Company. I honestly don't think that the management of the company was even aware that they still had AIX. They wanted everything on Linux or Windows, but they had some systems on AIX and they couldn't figure out how to get off of them. So it was basically an Open Secret, that there was some AIX still running. And as long as there was, that dude would have a job. The Linux guys were under constant attack; their jobs were getting outsource to India like crazy. For the Windows guys, it was even worse. The AIX dude just kept humming along, because you're not going to find anyone in India who's intimately familiar with the ins and outs of AIX. On top of all that, the paycheck is better too. You can run Linux on a $40 PC that you buy from a thrift shop, from what this dude told me, AIX not only requires expensive hardware, the hardware stops running if you don't pay license fees to IBM. So even if you bought some gear off of eBay and made the effort to set it up, it might not run. The entire ecosystem is basically designed so that you can't learn it or run it unless you're paying IBM licensing fees. And that basically eliminates 99.9% of the people in the world who might learn it, and those people will just go and learn Debian or Ubuntu. IBM owns Red Hat and is carrying this theme over to Red Hat now. (They just announced that the Red Hat repos won't be open any longer, even though RHEL is technically "open source.")

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

YMMV but I avoid anything popular like the plague. There's a bunch of talk in this thread about webapps and shit like that, but I avoid anything that can be farmed out to body shops overseas. I don't give a shit about Javascript or HTML or whatever open source language that people write webapps in these days. There's just too many people chasing those jobs.

My bread and butter is proprietary software that you can't find anyone else who knows how to do it. As I see it:

• If you're doing something open source, like Debian or Puppet or whatever, there's a million dudes out there just like you, and many of them live in parts of the world where they're willing to work for $15-$20 an hour
• If you're doing something closed source, obscure, old, or ideally "all of the above", there will often be less than 100 people on the entire planet who know how to do that thing. So you basically become a "human insurance policy." I can't even count the number of jobs I've had where I was hired to do something and learned that they were trying to fill the role for three months or more, and there were zero applicants whatsoever. I don't do Cobol, but you get the general idea. If you're one of the last 100 people writing Cobol, you'll have work for as long as you choose to do it. And you're nearly un-firable because it's better to have someone around who's doing the work slowly, then have nobody doing it at all. Of course, there's an obvious downside here: there aren't many jobs, and your employer is constantly trying to figure out how to replace the software so that they can get rid of a "single point of failure."

I quoted you because he was mocking you not because I wanted IT advice.

 

[Meownaw]

who the fuck is jack horner and what does "cool jack horner" mean ? If anyone tells me to linger longer or calls me a mullen... i swear...

It's a Cumtown thing if anything I should linger less.

 

[Butterknife]

who the fuck is jack horner and what does "cool jack horner" mean ? If anyone tells me to linger longer or calls me a mullen... i swear...

He's an older gentleman from Cumtown.org who works multiple IT jobs simultaneously and lets young dudes bang his buxom wife.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

who the fuck is jack horner and what does "cool jack horner" mean ? If anyone tells me to linger longer or calls me a mullen... i swear...

Jack is a Cumtown poster who would constantly post about having 3 WFH jobs at once, he vaped liquor to cure his covid, and once called his adult step daughter “an 11.” Pretty funny guy and an old school OnA fan but he’d usually only come here when he’s temporarily get upset with the board over there. Oh yeah and like DJ Fucko said he’s a cuck but justifies it in some weird way. Used to live with three strippers.

 

[Jack_Horner]

who the fuck is jack horner and what does "cool jack horner" mean ? If anyone tells me to linger longer or calls me a mullen... i swear...

I've been around forever, going back to the Pal Talk days

I change names a lot

If anyone here listened to Tom Leykis, I was the dude who would call in from Portland

Never called in to O&A because they rarely took calls

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

I've been around forever, going back to the Pal Talk days

I change names a lot

If anyone here listened to Tom Leykis, I was the dude who would call in from Portland

Never called in to O&A because they rarely took calls

Slow month at the Cumtown site? Hope your sobriety is still going well.

 

[LoomisBuckby]

The 3rd of them is the weirdest of all. They went to prison for "cyber crimes." It was in Reuters and everything. When they got out of prison, it took all of six weeks for them to find a job. Which really says something about the state of the USA right now. This person literally commit a cyber crime so heinous, they went to prison for it, but they had little or no issue finding a job once they were released. But there are guys who got canceled for making a dick joke who wound up completely unemployable. (Remember the dude that got fired for making a dick joke at a Python convention?)

I've had to have my name changed before. You have to submit a very extensive background check and swear to the court you're not doing it to trick the public about your past or evade debts or anything else even remotely sketchy.
I'm not calling bullshit on this guy or your story but I'm very suspicious if he went to federal pound-me-in-the-ass-prison for a cybercrime that was heinous and still somehow got to change his name.

 

[LoomisBuckby]

who the fuck is jack horner and what does "cool jack horner" mean ? If anyone tells me to linger longer or calls me a mullen... i swear...

I was not mocking you, I was lightly goofing on Jack. There's a meme on ct about "cool x" where someone who is perceivably lame has a cool version of them out there. Jack's known for being an IT guy, but he doesn't post like you at all and absolutely never gets technical. So you're the cool version of him.
eg - Dennis Falcone is "Cool Opie" - has also been doing radio since he was 18, but is actually skilled, knowledgeable, funny, and can take a good joke at his expense as well as shoot the shit with the boys and be natural about it.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

I was not mocking you, I was lightly goofing on Jack. There's a meme on ct about "cool x" where someone who is perceivably lame has a cool version of them out there. Jack's known for being an IT guy, but he doesn't post like you at all and absolutely never gets technical. So you're the cool version of him.
eg - Dennis Falcone is "Cool Opie" - has also been doing radio since he was 18, but is actually skilled, knowledgeable, funny, and can take a good joke at his expense as well as shoot the shit with the boys and be natural about it.

Linger longer

 

[Jack_Horner]

I quoted you because he was mocking you not because I wanted IT advice.

I'm not very good at reading comprehension lol

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

I think you can do the multiple IT thing, and have it make sense if you fall within a certain intersection of goals and abilities. The first is the goals. If you have some type of longterm career path, I don't think this is a good use of time. You're not going to building up a good resume or skillset. You also not going to be increasing team skills you need for higher levels.

There's also money. In my uninformed opinion, you're not going to be making more in Mayne 3-5 years. Best case scenario you get 3 jobs that require a bunch of manual shit, data cleaning etc. You automate shit so that you can do all 3 jobs. You're doing 60k*3 ? You're not getting equity , you're probably not getting bonuses. Senior devops you can be 200k+ base and you're already way ahead.

You're essentially front loading your earing potential but creating an artificial ceiling.

It really depends on your goals.

I don’t even want the single job that I have now.