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Black men raised in the top 1 percent — by millionaires — were as likely to be incarcerated as white men raised in households earning about $36,000

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I’m confused by your logic because we do have an “infinitely” growing GDP and worker base.

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The actual problem is inflation. Over 20 years your social security benefits will stay the same but you’ll be able to purchase less. Over 20 years the amount you’ve put into SS has been destroyed by inflation.

Then of course the other issue is putting people on SS who won’t pay into it as much as what they’ll get out of it, aka Migrants.
They keep the ponzi scheme afloat with immigration. The gimmygrants take out loans for cars and houses keeping the system from deflating like it should.
 

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We need to just be honest and admit social security is a Ponzi scheme and can only be kept going if we have an infinitely growing GDP and worker base and adjust accordingly, and not just pretend like importing millions of Africans will stop the scheme collapsing, which it won’t because of how many don’t work anyway.
Social Security was a boomer placation tool...immigration is only "partially" about paying back into the system...the real purpose of immigration is to make frictions/blocs so that uppity LBJ'sters dont get too sassy.

Democracies always camouflage the tension between the Elite and Citizenry (Elite need thralls to be scapegoats/human shields)...twas the case from Ancient Greece onwards.
 

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Social Security was a boomer placation tool...immigration is only "partially" about paying back into the system...the real purpose of immigration is to make frictions/blocs so that uppity LBJ'sters dont get too sassy.
Eh. It’s BECOME a boomer placation tool but it didn’t start that way. Started post Great Depression when the country realized “Oops we could all go broke and die, that’s not fun”.

Social security was actually pulling in more money than it was giving out for 20 years…then the boomers started retiring and drained it to borderline insolvency.

And they’re in a rut. To make it more solvent, you need to raise more taxes which boomers hate. Or you could reduce their SS benefits / eligibility, which boomers also hate. The end goal seems to just be to fund the boomers until they die and tell everyone younger “Oops they sucked it all up now you get nothing”

Or just run the administration on borrowing like everything else from the govt
 
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You think of Blacks alot more than Blacks think of you...(You the person, and the collective "you".)
You're the most racist person in the history of this website. You routinely say insanely hateful racist things that you think you can get away with because you're a poor little baby victim. Just the worst possible combination of all human qualities. You're going to be punished when you die Boqoreh, so at least you have that to look forward to. Have fun enjoying your parents' wealth and influence in the meantime, that they stole from your poor countrymen...
 

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You're the most racist person in the history of this website. You routinely say insanely hateful racist things that you think you can get away with because you're a poor little baby victim. Just the worst possible combination of all human qualities. You're going to be punished when you die Boqoreh, so at least you have that to look forward to. Have fun enjoying your parents' wealth and influence in the meantime, that they stole from your poor countrymen...
What are you, Allah's secretary or something? You dont know my fate in the afterlife.
 
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Eh. It’s BECOME a boomer placation tool but it didn’t start that way. Started post Great Depression when the country realized “Oops we could all go broke and die, that’s not fun”.

Social security was actually pulling in more money than it was giving out for 20 years…then the boomers started retiring and drained it to borderline insolvency.

And they’re in a rut. To make it more solvent, you need to raise more taxes which boomers hate. Or you could reduce their SS benefits / eligibility, which boomers also hate. The end goal seems to just be to fund the boomers until they die and tell everyone younger “Oops they sucked it all up now you get nothing”

Or just run the administration on borrowing like everything else from the govt
Then there's the fact that people are living way longer now than when it first started. It used to be extremely rare when people lived to 70 but now it's pretty common to live into your mid 80s.
 

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Eh. It’s BECOME a boomer placation tool but it didn’t start that way. Started post Great Depression when the country realized “Oops we could all go broke and die, that’s not fun”.

Social security was actually pulling in more money than it was giving out for 20 years…then the boomers started retiring and drained it to borderline insolvency.

And they’re in a rut. To make it more solvent, you need to raise more taxes which boomers hate. Or you could reduce their SS benefits / eligibility, which boomers also hate. The end goal seems to just be to fund the boomers until they die and tell everyone younger “Oops they sucked it all up now you get nothing”

Or just run the administration on borrowing like everything else from the govt
I might be out of my depth so go easy! Fiat (debt based) currency was introduced in US around 1913 just to fill the pockets of elites - lending the Brits money & producing weapons - producing something which literally goes bang & needs replacing for 'security reasons' is peak inbuilt obsolescence.

With debt-based currency they basically borrowed/printed at least $1mil when you were born, with the expectation that you'd work to pay it back (I think you were overvalued tbf, no offence)... but even if you did well & made enough money to buy everything you need for the rest of your life, then you'll still be struggling because of inflation.
And that literal hard work which boomer parents did to buy the property you'll inherit will barely pay a month's rent after inflation, & property hoarding by elites, Blackrock, etc. But I guess it was your hard-working boomer parents who were dumb.
 

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if you look at 2022 murder rates for Lagos and Baltimore, you might be in for a shock. I'm not saying there aren't parts of Africa with mass graves no one will ever discover but the urbanised parts aren't as violent as you'd think.

When Trump came down those stairs and started complaining about immigration, in 2016, white liberals were freaking the fuck out.

The thing they didn't grasp is that Hispanics are racists against Hispanics. Even in Mexico, you're going to get judged on where you are from, not just your skin color. The white liberals didn't "get" that; they'd been hypnotized into believing that "white=bad" and "white=oppressors" and that everyone who's NOT white are in solidarity with each other.

It's an incredibly childlike world view, but white liberals generally know nothing but other white liberals, and so they generally don't "get" the nuances of race relations.

I used to live in Seattle, and this was particularly noticeable: part of the black community in Seattle are immigrants; a lot of folks from Ethiopia in particular. Another part of the black community in Seattle has come from other parts of the United States. (Being black used to be outlawed in the Pacific Northwest, so you don't see many black families in the PNW that can trace their lineage back farther than a hundred years.)

These two groups are completely different. They talk different, they look different, they act different. But white liberals insist on judging everyone based on the color of their skin, which is just silly.
 

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Look at South Africa, crime not just murder is out of control, homes are all behind cement walls and barbed wire. You're told not to walk around with your jewelry and phone exposed. Rape is almost commonplace. Infrastructure is collapsing, rolling blackouts , some local blacks are calling for white rule to return it's gotten so bad.

I can speak enough Spanish to get by, and due to that, I was the only person on my team at my former job who got assignments in Central and South America.

Something that bums me out about Americans, is that they don't grasp that in most of the third world, people live behind brick walls with razor wire on top. Even in the wealthiest neighborhoods in Mexico, it's VERY uncommon to see homes that AREN'T built like fortresses.

The "American dream" of having a lawn, and people can just walk up and ring your doorbell? That just doesn't EXIST in huge chunks of the world.

A friend of mine spent years having a house built in Mexico. He kept telling me about how great it was, how affordable it was, etc. Posting pics of him walking on the beach, which was just a few blocks from his home. His home cost about 5% as you'd spend for (near) beachfront property in SoCal, but it was just an hour away from SoCal.

Like a cheat mode for "living by the beach," right?

Then one day he quietly stopped going, and got a new place.

To this day, he won't provide any details. But I get the impression that someone probably just showed up at his doorstep and told him to pay taxes to some gangsters, or maybe they just took the house entirely. (The house that he had built, it was a single family home, not much different than what you'd see in San Diego. His new place is in a condo with a big security corridor, a guard gated entrance to the property itself AND the building. It's got more security than you'd see at a bank in the U.S.) If you go on YouTube, you can find endless firsthand accounts of gringos who bought a house in Mexico, then someone just showed up with some guys with guns and told the homeowner it was time to pack their stuff. People thought John McAffee was a loon, with all of his prostitutes and his money and his guns in Belize. But realistically? If you're some white dude in Belize and some local gangsters figure out you're loaded, there's a good chance they're going to show up and ask you for money, or maybe even tell you to abandon your house.

All of this shit is happening in a country that we share a border with, and Libs are like "it'll be fine."
 

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Social Security was a boomer placation tool...immigration is only "partially" about paying back into the system...the real purpose of immigration is to make frictions/blocs so that uppity LBJ'sters dont get too sassy.

Democracies always camouflage the tension between the Elite and Citizenry (Elite need thralls to be scapegoats/human shields)...twas the case from Ancient Greece onwards.
Isn't that the kind of stuff your betters in your own family would roll their eyes at?
 

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You watched grannyporn. You will pay for it.
Granny porn not halal, my friend... Seriously though, what a fucking scumbag religion.

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When Trump came down those stairs and started complaining about immigration, in 2016, white liberals were freaking the fuck out.

The thing they didn't grasp is that Hispanics are racists against Hispanics. Even in Mexico, you're going to get judged on where you are from, not just your skin color. The white liberals didn't "get" that; they'd been hypnotized into believing that "white=bad" and "white=oppressors" and that everyone who's NOT white are in solidarity with each other.

It's an incredibly childlike world view, but white liberals generally know nothing but other white liberals, and so they generally don't "get" the nuances of race relations.

I used to live in Seattle, and this was particularly noticeable: part of the black community in Seattle are immigrants; a lot of folks from Ethiopia in particular. Another part of the black community in Seattle has come from other parts of the United States. (Being black used to be outlawed in the Pacific Northwest, so you don't see many black families in the PNW that can trace their lineage back farther than a hundred years.)

These two groups are completely different. They talk different, they look different, they act different. But white liberals insist on judging everyone based on the color of their skin, which is just silly.
Ethiopians will be here in the next 20-30-40-50 years

America wont
I can speak enough Spanish to get by, and due to that, I was the only person on my team at my former job who got assignments in Central and South America.

Something that bums me out about Americans, is that they don't grasp that in most of the third world, people live behind brick walls with razor wire on top. Even in the wealthiest neighborhoods in Mexico, it's VERY uncommon to see homes that AREN'T built like fortresses.

The "American dream" of having a lawn, and people can just walk up and ring your doorbell? That just doesn't EXIST in huge chunks of the world.

A friend of mine spent years having a house built in Mexico. He kept telling me about how great it was, how affordable it was, etc. Posting pics of him walking on the beach, which was just a few blocks from his home. His home cost about 5% as you'd spend for (near) beachfront property in SoCal, but it was just an hour away from SoCal.

Like a cheat mode for "living by the beach," right?

Then one day he quietly stopped going, and got a new place.

To this day, he won't provide any details. But I get the impression that someone probably just showed up at his doorstep and told him to pay taxes to some gangsters, or maybe they just took the house entirely. (The house that he had built, it was a single family home, not much different than what you'd see in San Diego. His new place is in a condo with a big security corridor, a guard gated entrance to the property itself AND the building. It's got more security than you'd see at a bank in the U.S.) If you go on YouTube, you can find endless firsthand accounts of gringos who bought a house in Mexico, then someone just showed up with some guys with guns and told the homeowner it was time to pack their stuff. People thought John McAffee was a loon, with all of his prostitutes and his money and his guns in Belize. But realistically? If you're some white dude in Belize and some local gangsters figure out you're loaded, there's a good chance they're going to show up and ask you for money, or maybe even tell you to abandon your house.

All of this shit is happening in a country that we share a border with, and Libs are like "it'll be fine."
Holee shit, I can confirm this happens...Happened to the Boqs when Somalia lost the Ogaden war in 1978 to the Commie Ethiopians, and Siad Barre had to placate fleeing Ogaden Somalis by giving them Isaaq land and property. Too bad by 1991 we kicked them out and declared independence and became the most functional , stable and democratic country in the horn of Africa (Somaliland Republic) and Allah cursed his people with chaos and instability since. Somalia failed the moment they turned on the Isaaq.
 

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I might be out of my depth so go easy! Fiat (debt based) currency was introduced in US around 1913 just to fill the pockets of elites - lending the Brits money & producing weapons -
Take everything i’m about to say as going easy no matter how it reads…i’m discussing this with you

No, you’re getting it confused. Woodrow Wilson started the Federal Reserve in 1913. It wasn’t until 1971 when Nixon took us off the gold standard that we became a fiat currency. This also wasn’t done to “fill the pockets of the elite” but as an effect of globalism. From what I remember, the gist of it was that the US dollar was becoming a global reserve currency. Why? Because it was backed by gold. Instead of countries holding gold themselves, they’d hold USD believing it to be equal to the gold.

Yadda yadda…Mexico holding a lot of USD, its economy crashes, tries to redeem USD for gold and told “Uhh yeah we don’t have it” because US gold reserves had been steadily declining since the 40’s.

Anyway this is an economic policy that goes back like 200 years in this country and which i’m not too educated on. In the 1800’s you had people who wanted the gold standard, the silver standard, combined, greenbackers, and then their view of wether they wanted a central bank or not was independent of their former opinion, also going back to the start of the country.
producing something which literally goes bang & needs replacing for 'security reasons' is peak inbuilt obsolescence.
That is silly. The US is the biggest arms manufacturer and exporter in the world and has been since at least WW2. 5 of the biggest weapon manufacturers are all US and pull in 11 figures in revenue each (around 50 billion). Per year. Not only is the US always in war making this profitable but even when it isn’t it’s selling its arms to other warring countries.

Basically we make a lot of money from it. Thats good for our country. I also don’t know what it has to do with the fed / fiat
With debt-based currency they basically borrowed/printed at least $1mil when you were born, with the expectation that you'd work to pay it back (I think you were overvalued tbf, no offence)... but even if you did well & made enough money to buy everything you need for the rest of your life, then you'll still be struggling because of inflation.
And that literal hard work which boomer parents did to buy the property you'll inherit will barely pay a month's rent after inflation, & property hoarding by elites, Blackrock, etc. But I guess it was your hard-working boomer parents who were dumb.
This just fundamentally misunderstands how these things work. The Fed is not the one ultimately responsible but the Government is. The reason the US is in debt is because we don’t pull in enough revenue compared to our spending. So we have to borrow and it creates debt. Debt can be a good thing, as it shows confidence that you can pay said debt back and increase credit, but not where we are right now where its out of control. The expectation is not that an individual pays the debt back but the collective simply reduces it through taxation.

Second, the whole “printing money” thing is dumb because the Fed increases the money supply through buying bonds back (bonds they pay interest to) from the banks. When the Fed decreases the money supply they sell bonds, receive the money, and hold it.
 

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He always had nice things to say about SA. Obviously the beauty of it but as a country over all. As a Greek American SA was embargoed by the USA so we didn't get much info on it.

A couple of dumb anecdotes:

  • My wife nearly got trapped in South Africa during the pandemic. She does the same work that I do (I.T. consulting) and she had a week long gig scheduled at a company in South Africa. She was sweating bullets because she heard all the horror stories about the security situation in the country, and wasn't thrilled to go there, but she doesn't get to choose where the work is. It was literally the week that the pandemic kicked into 5th gear, and it was "up in the air" whether she'd have to go. Eventually, her job canceled the trip. The flight she was scheduled to take, it flew all the way to South Africa, something like twenty hours. Then it landed in SA, sat on the tarmac for a few hours, and turned around. I can't even IMAGINE how miserable it would be, to be stuck on a plane for something like 45 hours continuously. Even worse, if the lockdowns had begun a week later, she may have got "stuck" in Africa. :O
  • "Blackhawk Down" made Africa look like a disgusting infernal shithole. Hot, dirty, dusty, grimy, awful. Then one day I pulled up some pictures of where the movie was... and it's really nice. It's hot-ish, but no worse than any southern state in the U.S. Which begs the question: if a group of people has been living in a place with really nice weather and abundant resources for THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS what is stopping them from getting their shit together?
Some pics of Mogadishu from "Black Hawk Down," compared to what it's actually like:

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The average temperature in their hottest month is 85, and their average temperature in their coldest month is 72.
 

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I guess if I was one of them, I’d say something like this too.
The lowest White can travel to Japan and fuck the top Japanese woman. The Japanese woman would actually "throw" themselves at him.

The top White man can go to Afghanistan and no woman would want him, unless he said the shahada first and got approved by her dad.

Afghans are not mentally colonized, Japanese are. Women are the canary in the goldmine/weather pane. Always.
 

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The reason the US is in debt is because we don’t pull in enough revenue compared to our spending. So we have to borrow and it creates debt. Debt can be a good thing, as it shows confidence that you can pay said debt back and increase credit,
ok, I was with you upto this point (but I appreciate the legit discussion btw)... so I don't want to go straight conspiracy, but you must know the Fed isn't 'federal' / government, & is a private consortium with their own interests...

Maybe this is why I discount politics, because government & their regulatory agencies lack the power to make effective change with the economy, etc.

That stuff is way above their paygrade & all that happens is they get lobbied (bribed) to make the appropriate laws to benefit the real powers at-play...

Seriously, do you think government can change this? Do you think people could vote-in people who wont be subject to lobbying cash? Or would they even have a meaningful campaign without that lobbying cash... Hey! everyone else is doing it... so I guess that's just the way it is!

I'm not ssaying I want revolution or even have a great idea, but admitting it's pretty corrupt & fucked seems like a start, no?
 
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