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Trouble Between Jim & Sam?

JoeBrotheChildSpitGuzzler

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True the Captain recognized Bobo , Nana and the Worm acted like they were "too cool" to be seen with "schmucks" when in reality The Worm and Nana were the biggest Schmucks
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Artie was the same way. In some clip he even said "people think you're like them then you do something that shows your not and they get mad". He's deliberately phony so fans think that he is worthy of their pity and not just a pathetic rich junkie who blew every opportunity he ever had. People talk about how Howard was the best thing that happened to him (and even Artie believes it) when honestly howards faggy attempt to live the "Rock and Roll Lifestyle" rubbed off on Artie and convinced him to do any number of retarded fucking things thinking it was cool to be an out of control addict. Like when he did the photo shoot for the rolling stone article and he just rolled out of bed and had them shoot him all disheveled, in a corduroy jacket with no shirt and a cig hanging off his lip. He just looked like a hideous disaster but convinced himself it was cool.

In fact, Any comic trying to be rock and roll is instantly a huge fag. I like Sam Kinison but he was the one who started that bullshit and it inspired so many fucking hacks to do the same. Dice started doing it, which inspired guys like Norton etc. The coke culture of the 80s convinced all these loser comics they were cool and people anyone respected.
 

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Artie was the same way. People talk about how Howard was the best thing that happened to him (and even Artie believes it) when honestly howards faggy attempt to live the "Rock and Roll Lifestyle" rubbed off on Artie and convinced him to do any number of retarded fucking things thinking it was cool to be an out of control addict.
This just more revisionism that Artie fans fell for. Fact is that Artie was doing his 'rock star lifestyle' during the MadTV years. Well before he even met Howard in person. He was taking private planes and doing coke and acting like a junkie loser before he even dreamed of working on the Stern Show. Artie was an out of control junkie addict long time before he had any association with Stern and already had one suicide attempt. And Stern tried to stop Artie from doing Beer League and his other dumb projects and Artie was deep into coke paranoia by then and trusted no one.

Howard's 'rock and roll' years consisted of him eating a boiled potato every day for lunch and starving himself. Getting endless plastic surgery to his nose and chin. And spending all of his free time in his apartment alone with Beth and her cats when his divorce was being finalized. And barely socializing with anyone. Even when he was taking vacations with Jimmy Kimmel and Jennifer Aniston which would be a dream for a celebrity obsessed geek like Howard.....he eventually stopped and went back to being a recluse in his mansion. His true self.
In fact, Any comic trying to be rock and roll is instantly a huge fag. I like Sam Kinison but he was the one who started that bullshit and it inspired so many fucking hacks to do the same. Dice started doing it, which inspired guys like Norton etc. The coke culture of the 80s convinced all these loser comics they were cool and people anyone respected.
Kinison toured the country as a preacher and was a musician. His act was entirely unique including his ridiculous leather motorcycle outfit despite him having the height of a Hobbit. Kinison also could play guitar and all his friends were rock stars or singers. Every show that Sam did had some rockers in the audience or backstage to watch his act. And also to get some of Sam's coke for free at the after party.

Everyone ripped Kinison off and wanted to be him. Dice practically became Kinison after he died. Albeit a hacky jewish version. Hicks started doing a way different act after being around Kinison for a while. And tons of comics tried to imitate Sam's maniacal screaming and shouting.
 

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This just more revisionism that Artie fans fell for. Fact is that Artie was doing his 'rock star lifestyle' during the MadTV years. Well before he even met Howard in person. He was taking private planes and doing coke and acting like a junkie loser before he even dreamed of working on the Stern Show. Artie was an out of control junkie addict long time before he had any association with Stern and already had one suicide attempt. And Stern tried to stop Artie from doing Beer League and his other dumb projects and Artie was deep into coke paranoia by then and trusted no one.

Howard's 'rock and roll' years consisted of him eating a boiled potato every day for lunch and starving himself. Getting endless plastic surgery to his nose and chin. And spending all of his free time in his apartment alone with Beth and her cats when his divorce was being finalized. And barely socializing with anyone. Even when he was taking vacations with Jimmy Kimmel and Jennifer Aniston which would be a dream for a celebrity obsessed geek like Howard.....he eventually stopped and went back to being a recluse in his mansion. His true self.

Kinison toured the country as a preacher and was a musician. His act was entirely unique including his ridiculous leather motorcycle outfit despite him having the height of a Hobbit. Kinison also could play guitar and all his friends were rock stars or singers. Every show that Sam did had some rockers in the audience or backstage to watch his act. And also to get some of Sam's coke for free at the after party.

Everyone ripped Kinison off and wanted to be him. Dice practically became Kinison after he died. Albeit a hacky jewish version. Hicks started doing a way different act after being around Kinison for a while. And tons of comics tried to imitate Sam's maniacal screaming and shouting.

Artie's low self esteem crippled his fake manhood tough guy act. He needed a coverup so he became consumed with Italian city boy blue collar bullshit. "Tony Soprano is literally me." And like Anthony, Artie's image of a tough guy was an alcoholic drug addict who gambled his family's money away, beat and cheat on his wife, worked a loser job, enjoyed Springsteen's garbage music, etc.

Anthony drank every day because he witnessed his own dad drink his life away. Artie did the same, and as adults they panicked when they realized they are just lost faggots repressing themselves and imitating their dead daddies. Opie has major daddy issues over his father's shocking death. But he had a relevant mentor in Wease, a functioning family, owns multiple propertie, etc. WINNING

Realistically, Opie's career is back to 1994, but this time he has bragging rights over his previous accomplishments, regardless of any hater criticism. Anthony is like some no-name podcaster, lost in a sea of plastic trash... without Opie's guidance. But that's a story for another thread.
 

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Artie's low self esteem crippled his fake manhood tough guy act. "Tony Soprano is literally me."
Artie harassing the actor who played Vito during a Las Vegas Stern Show is probably in the top ten most absurd moments in the history of the entire show. The live shows that Stern did in Vegas during the Artie years had some of the most insane moments and clearly lead to a decline for Artie in the long run. As his partying from those events would spill over into the partying not stopping the rest of the year.

Artie having security put him in a wheelchair only for him to leap from the chair right into a wall is a microcosm of his entire career.
Anthony invited Ben Sparks, Big A, Bobo, Sandy Kane, Jim Norton, East Side Dave, etc. to his residential address but he never invited Opie.
Imagine being Anthony's "dates" and live in beards like Stetten or Nicolini and seeing the parade of freaks arriving daily to the Compound. And wondering what you have done in your life to get here. And why a successful multimillionaire is only friends with circus freaks and monsters.
 

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Anthony drank every day because he witnessed his own dad drink his life away. Artie did the same, and as adults they panicked when they realized they are just lost faggots repressing themselves and imitating their dead daddies. Opie has major daddy issues over his father's shocking death. But he had a relevant mentor in Wease, a functioning family, owns multiple propertie, etc. WINNING
Opies father was an actual man. Raised his children. Never beat his wife. Provided for them monetarily. Provided for them emotionally. He died in a freak accident with Gregg by his side. His last words were I love you. Meanwhile Anthonys father had a stroke and his last words were “FAGGOT”. And Anthony probably wasn’t even in the hospital room for fear of being “sad”.

What did Opies dad do when Opie ran up the tree after hearing about Sex Ed? He coaxed him down and explained it to him. Anthonys father would have beat him, called him a sissy, then showed him what sex ed was by raping him in the mouth. And as we see Opies loving father paid off. He’s an adjusted man with a family and wife.

It is insane how Ants idea of what a man is is basically just being a nigger deadbeat. It’s so awesome to have your underage children fuck old prostitutes, and beat your wife, and drink yourself into a coma, and abandon your family, and slap your kids, and hang out in the desert loaded and accidentally shooting children.
 

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This just more revisionism that Artie fans fell for. Fact is that Artie was doing his 'rock star lifestyle' during the MadTV years. Well before he even met Howard in person. He was taking private planes and doing coke and acting like a junkie loser before he even dreamed of working on the Stern Show. Artie was an out of control junkie addict long time before he had any association with Stern and already had one suicide attempt. And Stern tried to stop Artie from doing Beer League and his other dumb projects and Artie was deep into coke paranoia by then and trusted no one.

Howard's 'rock and roll' years consisted of him eating a boiled potato every day for lunch and starving himself. Getting endless plastic surgery to his nose and chin. And spending all of his free time in his apartment alone with Beth and her cats when his divorce was being finalized. And barely socializing with anyone. Even when he was taking vacations with Jimmy Kimmel and Jennifer Aniston which would be a dream for a celebrity obsessed geek like Howard.....he eventually stopped and went back to being a recluse in his mansion. His true self.

Kinison toured the country as a preacher and was a musician. His act was entirely unique including his ridiculous leather motorcycle outfit despite him having the height of a Hobbit. Kinison also could play guitar and all his friends were rock stars or singers. Every show that Sam did had some rockers in the audience or backstage to watch his act. And also to get some of Sam's coke for free at the after party.

Everyone ripped Kinison off and wanted to be him. Dice practically became Kinison after he died. Albeit a hacky jewish version. Hicks started doing a way different act after being around Kinison for a while. And tons of comics tried to imitate Sam's maniacal screaming and shouting.
“If Artie says he sober then I believe him.”
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JoeBrotheChildSpitGuzzler

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This just more revisionism that Artie fans fell for. Fact is that Artie was doing his 'rock star lifestyle' during the MadTV years. Well before he even met Howard in person. He was taking private planes and doing coke and acting like a junkie loser before he even dreamed of working on the Stern Show. Artie was an out of control junkie addict long time before he had any association with Stern and already had one suicide attempt. And Stern tried to stop Artie from doing Beer League and his other dumb projects and Artie was deep into coke paranoia by then and trusted no one.

Howard's 'rock and roll' years consisted of him eating a boiled potato every day for lunch and starving himself. Getting endless plastic surgery to his nose and chin. And spending all of his free time in his apartment alone with Beth and her cats when his divorce was being finalized. And barely socializing with anyone. Even when he was taking vacations with Jimmy Kimmel and Jennifer Aniston which would be a dream for a celebrity obsessed geek like Howard.....he eventually stopped and went back to being a recluse in his mansion. His true self.

Kinison toured the country as a preacher and was a musician. His act was entirely unique including his ridiculous leather motorcycle outfit despite him having the height of a Hobbit. Kinison also could play guitar and all his friends were rock stars or singers. Every show that Sam did had some rockers in the audience or backstage to watch his act. And also to get some of Sam's coke for free at the after party.

Everyone ripped Kinison off and wanted to be him. Dice practically became Kinison after he died. Albeit a hacky jewish version. Hicks started doing a way different act after being around Kinison for a while. And tons of comics tried to imitate Sam's maniacal screaming and shouting.
I never said Artie being a junkie can be laid at howards feet but I think that environment led to him convince himself for longer that what he was doing was normal and not fucked up and dysfunctional because nobody called him on it until he couldn't show up AND be sober at the same time. He was bringing dealers to the building to snorting H in the stairwells, which would have been enough for anyone else to be fired.


And like I said I like kinison, I think he's funny, but trying to be a rock star was just goofy. He was a great comic, but he wasn't a great musician. People came to see him be funny, not to pretend he was touring with the rolling stones. Hell Leno even talked about going to the Store and seeing Kinison having a gun, doing rails in the back with a bunch of creepy people (probably coke dealers and hookers) and being so turned off he just stopped going there entirely. The point I was making wasn't that kinison couldn't pull it off on some level, it was that it created that environment that incorrectly convinced comics that they could be "Cool". The fact it Radio and Comics go together so well precisely because they are both near the bottom run of show business. Even kinison, had he not been providing free coke to all and sundry, wouldn't have had all the women and rocker friends hanging around. He was just the fat dude bringing the party favors so they reluctantly let him into their circle.
 
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