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That's what I'm advocating for.

I have a master's in economics with a specialization in macroeconomics and have been working in the , general, field of economics for 20 years. I'm not sure what else you're looking for.
So first point, how do you suppose we punish them? I’m genuinely interested in your opinions on how to do so. I’d tell you if I wasn’t.

See? Once again, you have a “master in economics”, but that means nothing to someone like me. Explain to the audience at home why that means something, and why you’re an expert on the subject. Macro-economics is pretty much an impossible thing to fully understand. I started to research it, and quickly realized everyone who talks about it has no fucking clue what they’re talking about. The reason? Not because I’m smart. Because nobody can agree on anything on that subject. They all have very basic ideas, and past that, all start to contradict eachother.

Once again, for what? The third or fourth time? Explain to me your experience in this subject matter besides you have a degree. I know all of the numbers in my industry, and I don’t have a degree. You should know something if you’re such an expert.
 
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So first point, how do you suppose we punish them? I’m genuinely interested in your opinions on how to do so. I’d tell you if I wasn’t.
I think for the 4th time now you place tariffs on China or selectively place tariffs on industries/products to discourage domestic consumption (145% is retarded, even Trump said so) but you first need to bolster private and government spending for domestic production (we are doing the opposite of this step; production is leaving and we're providing no incentive for investment). Decrease military spending (again, we're doing the opposite) and increase domestic production (grants, loans, however). It's illogical to place the burden of tariffs on consumers when they have no domestic alternative. A great example is the EV market. That's a good tariff policy no one will complain about (unless they want those dirt cheap Chinese cars).

Remove the new tariffs on everyone else first. It's moronic to tariff the entire world at once as they will seek separate trade deals. You're already seeing this (called 'diversion').

The only reprieve we've had was when the bond market started to tank as investors have lost faith in the US economy.
everyone who talks about it has no fucking clue what they’re talking about. The reason? Not because I’m smart. Because nobody can agree on anything on that subject.
It's a soft science that's almost entirely theoretical but people definitely agree on end results, they don't agree on the fundamentals (we can all agree on the effect, but what was the cause?) Tariffs have a shaky history (McKinley's tariffs had positive results but again, our economy at the turn of the 20th century was exporting more than importing) and can work if they're targeted. My issues with Trump's tariff policy is how broad it is in nature. Unrelated but he wants a new Fed chair and lower interest rates, which is where stuff gets nasty as inflation kicks up and production goes down. We have one quarter of contraction which isn't great but not awful, even 2 in a row is ok but unless we have some kind of positive influence (new trade deals leading to relaxed or eliminated tariffs) the economy will flounder. Bessent is already signalling his disagreements with Trump policy and appears to be able to sway him. Let's hope that's true. He's correct in his summation that a long trade war with China isn't smart but you can weaken them selectively and strengthen trade with everyone else. This is a point of fundamental disagreement, though. International trade isn't evil and it isn't going anywhere, but we need to remember we haven't been the king of products in over 50 years but no one can touch us on services.
Explain to me your experience in this subject matter besides you have a degree.
Without doxxing myself I don't know if I can but my work involves analytics of, mostly, domestic industry and procurement and allocation of (generally private) funding. I'm speaking, not as an expert on tariffs, but as someone with 2 decades experience in the world of corporate finance. Shit is very bleak in that world right now and I don't see a relief valve present as long as blanket tariffs continue.

We can get into the theory of tariffs if you'd like but I'd recommend reading on the beliefs of protectionists like McKinley vs Cleveland who opposed them (again, our situation is basically reversed now). That period, 1880s-90s, is about as concise as it can get on a micro scale.
 
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I think for the 4th time now you place tariffs on China or selectively place tariffs on industries/products to discourage domestic consumption (145% is retarded, even Trump said so) but you first need to bolster private and government spending for domestic production (we are doing the opposite of this step; production is leaving and we're providing no incentive for investment). Decrease military spending (again, we're doing the opposite) and increase domestic production (grants, loans, however). It's illogical to place the burden of tariffs on consumers when they have no domestic alternative. A great example is the EV market. That's a good tariff policy no one will complain about (unless they want those dirt cheap Chinese cars).

Remove the new tariffs on everyone else first. It's moronic to tariff the entire world at once as they will seek separate trade deals. You're already seeing this (called 'diversion').

The only reprieve we've had was when the bond market started to tank as investors have lost faith in the US economy.

It's a soft science that's almost entirely theoretical but people definitely agree on end results, they don't agree on the fundamentals (we can all agree on the effect, but what was the cause?) Tariffs have a shaky history (McKinley's tariffs had positive results but again, our economy at the turn of the 20th century was exporting more than importing) and can work if they're targeted. My issues with Trump's tariff policy is how broad it is in nature. Unrelated but he wants a new Fed chair and lower interest rates, which is where stuff gets nasty as inflation kicks up and production goes down. We have one quarter of contraction which isn't great but not awful, even 2 in a row is ok but unless we have some kind of positive influence (new trade deals leading to relaxed or eliminated tariffs) the economy will flounder. Bessent is already signalling his disagreements with Trump policy and appears to be able to sway him. Let's hope that's true. He's correct in his summation that a long trade war with China isn't smart but you can weaken them selectively and strengthen trade with everyone else. This is a point of fundamental disagreement, though. International trade isn't evil and it isn't going anywhere, but we need to remember we haven't been the king of products in over 50 years but no one can touch us on services.

Without doxxing myself I don't know if I can but my work involves analytics of, mostly, domestic industry and procurement and allocation of (generally private) funding. I'm speaking, not as an expert on tariffs, but as someone with 2 decades experience in the world of corporate finance. Shit is very bleak in that world right now and I don't see a relief valve present as long as blanket tariffs continue.

We can get into the theory of tariffs if you'd like but I'd recommend reading on the beliefs of protagonists like McKinley vs Cleveland who opposed them (again, our situation is basically reversed now). That period, 1880s-90s, is about as concise as it can get on a micro scale.

Sounds very Jewish.
 

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I think for the 4th time now you place tariffs on China or selectively place tariffs on industries/products to discourage domestic consumption (145% is retarded, even Trump said so) but you first need to bolster private and government spending for domestic production (we are doing the opposite of this step; production is leaving and we're providing no incentive for investment). Decrease military spending (again, we're doing the opposite) and increase domestic production (grants, loans, however). It's illogical to place the burden of tariffs on consumers when they have no domestic alternative. A great example is the EV market. That's a good tariff policy no one will complain about (unless they want those dirt cheap Chinese cars).

Remove the new tariffs on everyone else first. It's moronic to tariff the entire world at once as they will seek separate trade deals. You're already seeing this (called 'diversion').

The only reprieve we've had was when the bond market started to tank as investors have lost faith in the US economy.

It's a soft science that's almost entirely theoretical but people definitely agree on end results, they don't agree on the fundamentals (we can all agree on the effect, but what was the cause?) Tariffs have a shaky history (McKinley's tariffs had positive results but again, our economy at the turn of the 20th century was exporting more than importing) and can work if they're targeted. My issues with Trump's tariff policy is how broad it is in nature. Unrelated but he wants a new Fed chair and lower interest rates, which is where stuff gets nasty as inflation kicks up and production goes down. We have one quarter of contraction which isn't great but not awful, even 2 in a row is ok but unless we have some kind of positive influence (new trade deals leading to relaxed or eliminated tariffs) the economy will flounder. Bessent is already signalling his disagreements with Trump policy and appears to be able to sway him. Let's hope that's true. He's correct in his summation that a long trade war with China isn't smart but you can weaken them selectively and strengthen trade with everyone else. This is a point of fundamental disagreement, though. International trade isn't evil and it isn't going anywhere, but we need to remember we haven't been the king of products in over 50 years but no one can touch us on services.

Without doxxing myself I don't know if I can but my work involves analytics of, mostly, domestic industry and procurement and allocation of (generally private) funding. I'm speaking, not as an expert on tariffs, but as someone with 2 decades experience in the world of corporate finance. Shit is very bleak in that world right now and I don't see a relief valve present as long as blanket tariffs continue.

We can get into the theory of tariffs if you'd like but I'd recommend reading on the beliefs of protectionists like McKinley vs Cleveland who opposed them (again, our situation is basically reversed now). That period, 1880s-90s, is about as concise as it can get on a micro scale.
I genuinely appreciate this response I’d tell you if I didn’t. I agree with most of what you’ve said, honestly. I just don’t know our way out. From what I see in my industry, the chinks will find a new way to exploit somebody. Except Brazilian’s. Eu amo brasileros. Because instead of building these nations, we destroyed them. The chinks are now building them and creating strong economic bonds with them.

Our military budget isn’t even feasible. That’s why I asked you: “What country do we invade next?” Our economy is solely based off killing children. We’ve run out of children, and the one’s remaining are grown adults and ready to kill us. We’ve backed ourselves into a corner. Because of our greed. Well the KIKES greed. We need a hard shift in our economic policy. I have never defended trumps tariff’s on the idea that they’re godsend if that makes sense. I’ve defended them because they’re a better solution to what we have currently, which is a complete joke that everyone turns a blind eye to solely because they profit off of them.
 
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I genuinely appreciate this response I’d tell you if I didn’t. I agree with most of what you’ve said, honestly. I just don’t know our way out. From what I see in my industry, the chinks will find a new way to exploit somebody. Except Brazilian’s. Eu amo brasileros. Because instead of building these nations, we destroyed them. The chinks are now building them and creating strong economic bonds with them.

Our military budget isn’t even feasible. That’s why I asked you: “What country do we invade next?” Our economy is solely based off killing children. We’ve run out of children, and the one’s remaining are grown adults and ready to kill us. We’ve backed ourselves into a corner. Because of our greed. Well the KIKES greed. We need a hard shift in our economic policy. I have never defended trumps tariff’s on the idea that they’re godsend if that makes sense. I’ve defended them because they’re a better solution to what we have currently, which is a complete joke that everyone turns a blind eye to solely because they profit off of them.
Honestly at this point step 1 should just be elimination of new tariffs on everyone but China (maybe a couple more deserve it). We can beat China but we'll have to focus solely on them for a while. They have their own economic issues they might not be able to overcome.
 

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Honestly at this point step 1 should just be elimination of new tariffs on everyone but China (maybe a couple more deserve it). We can beat China but we'll have to focus solely on them for a while. They have their own economic issues they might not be able to overcome.
Ok, I actually agree with that point. How do you do that though? The second tariffs have been introduced to them, they find another country they can exploit. I’ll say it again, it’s well known if you get something from Vietnam, it means it’s from China. Same with India. So how do we stop that?
 
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Ok, I actually agree with that point. How do you do that though? The second tariffs have been introduced to them, they find another country they can exploit. I’ll say it again, it’s well known if you get something from Vietnam, it means it’s from China. Same with India. So how do we stop that?
That's when you target specific products/industries regardless of country of origin/shipment. That would help disincentivize those nations from following chink bullshit.
 

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That's when you target specific products/industries regardless of country of origin/shipment. That would help disincentivize those nations from following chink bullshit.
But how do we do that? How do we expose the street shitters? They all will lie for everything. Purriod. How many calls do you get from “Hello my name Johnathu. How might be of service today?” We need to stay forcing these faggots to respect us.
 
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But how do we do that? How do we expose the street shitters? They all will lie for everything. Purriod. How many calls do you get from “Hello my name Johnathu. How might be of service today?” We need to stay forcing these faggots to respect us.
Increase inspections at ports of entry.

India doesn't like China. Those servile stinky shit skins will cave. I hope Trump gets a good deal (for us) with them and I'll celebrate it gladly.
 
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Nobody is anti Trump here coons. We’re anti sucking dick in every measurable way.

Nobody is ripping off the US dummies. It’s a fake narrative. The US is literally the ONLY global superpower in the world. The only one out of 270 countries, you ingrate faggots! Rewiring the entire global economy for this fake narrative is total lunacy. One of two things will happen here, faggots… Trump basically pivots right back to Biden global economic policy (likely) after this bullshit dog and pony show or Trump goes all out and the US suffers massively, short and long term (will be totally unfortunate and your lives and your homosexual children’s lives will suck). Either way, you brainwashed faggots won’t concede when either happens. Retards.

The stock market comments are ridiculous. The Russell 2000 was down 30% peak to trough from Trump. He sent small cap companies into a bear market. We don’t know the damage to US weighted equities long term. Yes the stock market will always comeback over time but this was entirely self-inflicted. Even just losing a year of compounding means you faggots will have to work a couple extra years just for this trump horseshit and that doesn’t factor in a self-inflicted recession or long term policy effects. You’re eating L’s regardless and you’re enjoying it. It makes me sick to watch.

Just talking about a recession causes one. You faggots don’t realize this likely already turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy. People cutback on spending and you’re already seeing that across many industries. The fed was carefully navigating a fragile economic situation before Trump got involved and kicked over the jenga tower.

And to the faggot talking about the national debt, Lol… you can outgrow debt with robust economic growth. The one thing you don’t do is stifle economic growth when you have debt. The whole national debt talking point is horse shit. When I see tin knockers from high school with 400 credit score talking about the national debt, I know we’re fucked. Hopefully somebody around trump points this out to him. U Fucking idiot nigs.
 
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Nobody is anti Trump here coons. We’re anti sucking dick in every measurable way.

Nobody is ripping off the US dummies. It’s a fake narrative. The US is literally the ONLY global superpower in the world. The only one out of 270 countries, you ingrate faggots! Rewiring the entire global economy for this fake narrative is total lunacy. One of two things will happen here, faggots… Trump basically pivots right back to Biden global economic policy (likely) after this bullshit dog and pony show or Trump goes all out and the US suffers massively, short and long term (will be totally unfortunate and your lives and your homosexual children’s lives will suck). Either way, you brainwashed faggots won’t concede when either happens. Retards.

The stock market comments are ridiculous. The Russell 2000 was down 30% peak to trough from Trump. He sent small cap companies into a bear market. We don’t know the damage to US weighted equities long term. Yes the stock market will always comeback over time but this was entirely self-inflicted. Even just losing a year of compounding means you faggots will have to work a couple extra years just for this trump horseshit and that doesn’t factor in a self-inflicted recession or long term policy effects. You’re eating L’s regardless and you’re enjoying it. It makes me sick to watch.

Just talking about a recession causes one. You faggots don’t realize this likely already turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy. People cutback on spending and you’re already seeing that across many industries. The fed was carefully navigating a fragile economic situation before Trump got involved and kicked over the jenga tower.

And to the faggot talking about the national debt, Lol… you can outgrow debt with robust economic growth. The one thing you don’t do is stifle economic growth when you have debt. The whole national debt talking point is horse shit. When I see tin knockers from high school with 400 credit score talking about the national debt, I know we’re fucked. Hopefully somebody around trump points this out to him. U Fucking idiot nigs.
Nigga speaking some truths.
 

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Nobody is anti Trump here coons. We’re anti sucking dick in every measurable way.

Nobody is ripping off the US dummies. It’s a fake narrative. The US is literally the ONLY global superpower in the world. The only one out of 270 countries, you ingrate faggots! Rewiring the entire global economy for this fake narrative is total lunacy. One of two things will happen here, faggots… Trump basically pivots right back to Biden global economic policy (likely) after this bullshit dog and pony show or Trump goes all out and the US suffers massively, short and long term (will be totally unfortunate and your lives and your homosexual children’s lives will suck). Either way, you brainwashed faggots won’t concede when either happens. Retards.

The stock market comments are ridiculous. The Russell 2000 was down 30% peak to trough from Trump. He sent small cap companies into a bear market. We don’t know the damage to US weighted equities long term. Yes the stock market will always comeback over time but this was entirely self-inflicted. Even just losing a year of compounding means you faggots will have to work a couple extra years just for this trump horseshit and that doesn’t factor in a self-inflicted recession or long term policy effects. You’re eating L’s regardless and you’re enjoying it. It makes me sick to watch.

Just talking about a recession causes one. You faggots don’t realize this likely already turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy. People cutback on spending and you’re already seeing that across many industries. The fed was carefully navigating a fragile economic situation before Trump got involved and kicked over the jenga tower.

And to the faggot talking about the national debt, Lol… you can outgrow debt with robust economic growth. The one thing you don’t do is stifle economic growth when you have debt. The whole national debt talking point is horse shit. When I see tin knockers from high school with 400 credit score talking about the national debt, I know we’re fucked. Hopefully somebody around trump points this out to him. U Fucking idiot nigs.
Sue?
 
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Fuck, this is embarassing.
The market is down 4% ytd, if your portfolio is down more than that, you're a fucking retard for investing in high-risk assets when you need to liquidate to pay for a wedding. sorry you panic sold the bottom, boomer.
shoud've "stayed cool."it's not like he was talking about tariffs for decades.



Nice financial ineptitude, stupid.
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You think he’d understand it being around so many kike rats
 
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Nobody is anti Trump here coons. We’re anti sucking dick in every measurable way.

Nobody is ripping off the US dummies. It’s a fake narrative. The US is literally the ONLY global superpower in the world. The only one out of 270 countries, you ingrate faggots! Rewiring the entire global economy for this fake narrative is total lunacy. One of two things will happen here, faggots… Trump basically pivots right back to Biden global economic policy (likely) after this bullshit dog and pony show or Trump goes all out and the US suffers massively, short and long term (will be totally unfortunate and your lives and your homosexual children’s lives will suck). Either way, you brainwashed faggots won’t concede when either happens. Retards.

The stock market comments are ridiculous. The Russell 2000 was down 30% peak to trough from Trump. He sent small cap companies into a bear market. We don’t know the damage to US weighted equities long term. Yes the stock market will always comeback over time but this was entirely self-inflicted. Even just losing a year of compounding means you faggots will have to work a couple extra years just for this trump horseshit and that doesn’t factor in a self-inflicted recession or long term policy effects. You’re eating L’s regardless and you’re enjoying it. It makes me sick to watch.

Just talking about a recession causes one. You faggots don’t realize this likely already turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy. People cutback on spending and you’re already seeing that across many industries. The fed was carefully navigating a fragile economic situation before Trump got involved and kicked over the jenga tower.

And to the faggot talking about the national debt, Lol… you can outgrow debt with robust economic growth. The one thing you don’t do is stifle economic growth when you have debt. The whole national debt talking point is horse shit. When I see tin knockers from high school with 400 credit score talking about the national debt, I know we’re fucked. Hopefully somebody around trump points this out to him. U Fucking idiot nigs.
I’m anti-kike; trump is pro kike, and has a hoard of propagandists insinuating otherwise.
 

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Increase inspections at ports of entry.

India doesn't like China. Those servile stinky shit skins will cave. I hope Trump gets a good deal (for us) with them and I'll celebrate it gladly.
Yeah, we can trust them. Except for the weird fact that the Chinese use them all of the time. They don’t hate China, not sure where you got that from. They work with them all the time. So a laymen now has to be trained in how to work with every possible product that the Chinese might create, and then stop the Chinese from shipping them at India’s border. Or, the Chinese just move where it’s shipping from to their favor. But you’re right. We’ll just hire someone to our advantage there too and it will be okely dokely neighbor.
 
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