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[Saddam Hussein]

Fuck, this is embarassing.
The market is down 4% ytd, if your portfolio is down more than that, you're a fucking retard for investing in high-risk assets when you need to liquidate to pay for a wedding. sorry you panic sold the bottom, boomer.
shoud've "stayed cool."it's not like he was talking about tariffs for decades.



Nice financial ineptitude, stupid.

I have no idea what’ll happen tomorrow. Nice economy stupid

 

[Pussymagnetpat]

And yet when you all try to talk it shows you've never even taken Econ 101.

If one were to lay out the worst possible policies to have given our situation of the last 40 years it would basically be what Trump is doing. If we continue on this path it will be textbook buffoonery 500 years from now.

This isn't 'jUsT lEARn to DeAL wiTh it!' shit, it's self sabotaging yourself for no gain. 'Trust Trump, bro!'. He's retarded economically. We know how this ends and it's shit.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

Trump has noped out of the peace talks, so the war continues indefinitely. This will make liberals happy I suppose? They apparently want blood for the blood god at all costs.

 

[Bam's Cunt]

I have no idea what’ll happen tomorrow. Nice economy stupid

Whatever the opposite of Sue did

 

[Gay Faggot.]

Nigga you're acting like I was attacking you. What cogent point have you even tried to make?

'We cant keep going like we were'. In what way? What, specifically, got us there? What are the issues we are facing? Lay out your points so I can believe you aren't just arguing off shit you saw on Twitter.

Don’t have a twitter, stlaker. I have pointed out how the Chinese abuse the free trade market, multiple times at this point. Stop deflecting. The way we have, and are going, is an insane bubble, based off of debt. Debt that if this country fails, it can’t pay. This lesson was learned in the south sea bubble to a degree (it’s obviously not a direct comparison). So what nation do we rape and pillage next to continue our economic bliss? Answer this one. You won’t.

What got us here is pure greed. We saw $$$ (must be nice) in other countries and found ways to force their submission to us in order to lower our prices. We have those resources here. To do things right might just cost people more. Oh no! We might have to pay more heckorino money for our funko pops! Did you not study how the de-industrialization of America destroyed multiple cities? No, you’re right. Detroit is in a state of economic bliss. Talk to me about how we abused South America from the 50’s-90’s and name countries and how that hasn’t hurt us. The Chinese are lapping them up like candy.

I don’t think you were “attacking me”, I just simply asked for any explanation of your claims for your expansive knowledge on this subject. You keep saying you have a degree, but go into 0 detail about anything. Half this board mocks the Boqster, but he can at least espouse on the topics he’s talking about. You just tell everyone they’re retarded and you have a degree. You got your ass schooled by schizo @MYTHCHILD because he actually does what you pretend to know. The only reason I know he’s not lying is because he used actual numbers in my industry when he called you out.

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

Chinese abuse the free trade market, multiple times at this point. Stop deflecting.

Ive addressed this repeatedly here, including directly to you.

So what nation do we rape and pillage next to continue our economic bliss? Answer this one. You won’t.

This is essentially a meaningless hypothetical. You assume we have to, I disagree.

You keep saying you have a degree,

Ive said it once, to my knowledge.

What got us here is pure greed.

Got us where, exactly? That's what I've asked you to address directly.

We might have to pay more heckorino money for our funko pops!

This also isn't any kind cogent thought, at best, and a straw man at worst.

Detroit is in a state of economic bliss.

Who's contesting this sarcasm?

You got your ass schooled by schizo @MYTHCHILD because he actually does what you pretend to know.

Lol a joking exchange about golf. 'lel fuckin schooled!'. Nobacon is one of the dumbest posters here, brothaman, but defend him if you will. Wow, he writes codes about tariffs! He must understand the theory of economics! Jeets must be smartest people on earth then.

What detail would you like? From level of knowledge are you operating from? I've asked you to explain what are the issues we're facing and what got us there, yet you haven't. 'Things suck!' Ok, but what exactly sucks?

Do you want a history on tariffs and why/when they work and when they don't? Again, let me know what level we're starting from and I'll try to help you out. You got butthurt because I said there's some real stupidity in these threads, probably assuming I was talking about you.

Edit: joecumiaguitar

 

[Pussymagnetpat]

Ive addressed this repeatedly here, including directly to you.

This is essentially a meaningless hypothetical. You assume we have to, I disagree.

Ive said it once, to my knowledge.

Got us where, exactly? That's what I've asked you to address directly.

This also isn't any kind cogent thought, at best, and a straw man at worst.

Who's contesting this sarcasm?

Lol a joking exchange about golf. 'lel fuckin schooled!'. Nobacon is one of the dumbest posters here, brothaman, but defend him if you will. Wow, he writes codes about tariffs! He must understand the theory of economics! Jeets must be smartest people on earth then.

What detail would you like? From level of knowledge are you operating from? I've asked you to explain what are the issues we're facing and what got us there, yet you haven't. 'Things suck!' Ok, but what exactly sucks?

Do you want a history on tariffs and why/when they work and when they don't? Again, let me know what level we're starting from and I'll try to help you out. You got butthurt because I said there's some real stupidity in these threads, probably assuming I was talking about you.

Edit: joecumiaguitar

Your whole schtick is so boring lmao, it plays out on cnn everyday.

Trump is a bumbling fool, the economy was roaring under biden with govt spending 1/3 of gdp, 4% unemployment was excellent with college grads at starbucks part time, consume consooooom even though the dollar has zero purchasing power compared to 50 years ago,

WE GET IT.

Stop mentioning your econ degree from kosher university and say something interesting.
Anything. I beg you.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

Don’t have a twitter, stlaker. I have pointed out how the Chinese abuse the free trade market, multiple times at this point. Stop deflecting. The way we have, and are going, is an insane bubble, based off of debt. Debt that if this country fails, it can’t pay. This lesson was learned in the south sea bubble to a degree (it’s obviously not a direct comparison). So what nation do we rape and pillage next to continue our economic bliss? Answer this one. You won’t.

What got us here is pure greed. We saw $$$ (must be nice) in other countries and found ways to force their submission to us in order to lower our prices. We have those resources here. To do things right might just cost people more. Oh no! We might have to pay more heckorino money for our funko pops! Did you not study how the de-industrialization of America destroyed multiple cities? No, you’re right. Detroit is in a state of economic bliss. Talk to me about how we abused South America from the 50’s-90’s and name countries and how that hasn’t hurt us. The Chinese are lapping them up like candy.

I don’t think you were “attacking me”, I just simply asked for any explanation of your claims for your expansive knowledge on this subject. You keep saying you have a degree, but go into 0 detail about anything. Half this board mocks the Boqster, but he can at least espouse on the topics he’s talking about. You just tell everyone they’re retarded and you have a degree. You got your ass schooled by schizo @MYTHCHILD because he actually does what you pretend to know. The only reason I know he’s not lying is because he used actual numbers in my industry when he called you out.

I built a SQL database that updates every morning from government APIs across the world to provide real time information for every tariff, all of their restrictions, customs controls, duty and taxes.

You can name any object to me and I will be able to tell you it’s 8 or 10 digit tariff code from the top of my head or be very close to it. I could also tell you the trade agreements around it involving the US and what export licences it would need etc.

It’s the first time I can literally say I wrote the book on this topic, because I have wrote user manuals and error guides on it published on government resource pages.

@BakersfieldChimp is an anti Trump ideologue that doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

You can go back years and see me vaguely discussing my career, I never laid it out explicitly for opsec but you would realise it all fits into place if you know anything about this industry, which he doesn’t.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

Ive addressed this repeatedly here, including directly to you.

This is essentially a meaningless hypothetical. You assume we have to, I disagree.

Ive said it once, to my knowledge.

Got us where, exactly? That's what I've asked you to address directly.

This also isn't any kind cogent thought, at best, and a straw man at worst.

Who's contesting this sarcasm?

Lol a joking exchange about golf. 'lel fuckin schooled!'. Nobacon is one of the dumbest posters here, brothaman, but defend him if you will. Wow, he writes codes about tariffs! He must understand the theory of economics! Jeets must be smartest people on earth then.

What detail would you like? From level of knowledge are you operating from? I've asked you to explain what are the issues we're facing and what got us there, yet you haven't. 'Things suck!' Ok, but what exactly sucks?

Do you want a history on tariffs and why/when they work and when they don't? Again, let me know what level we're starting from and I'll try to help you out. You got butthurt because I said there's some real stupidity in these threads, probably assuming I was talking about you.

Edit: joecumiaguitar

I don’t have to know anything about macroeconomics and political theory, it’s like I’m saying I built a network that allows people to play chess online while you’re saying “actually sweetie, if black could move first it would have a better chance at victory” and I’m just saying yeah but that’s not possible.

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

I don’t have to know anything about macroeconomics and political theory

But we already know that, sweetie.

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

You can go back years and see me vaguely discussing my career, I never laid it out explicitly for opsec but you would realise it all fits into place if you know anything about this industry, which he doesn’t.

Wait, are we arguing from expertise or aren't we?

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

the economy was roaring under biden with govt spending 1/3 of gdp

Hey, now we're producing less and spending more! Daddy Trump!

 

[MYTHCHILD]

Wait, are we arguing from expertise or aren't we?

You can’t even explain the problem that the country has and which Trump is trying to fix. If you did, then we can get into the weeds about the tools he has and his approach, but you can’t even demonstrate you understand the fundamental principles in this topic.

I do, and I know the intricacies of the issues we have, since I’ve worked on them every day for a decade.

I also think you’re a pedophile.

 

[Gay Faggot.]

Ive addressed this repeatedly here, including directly to you.

This is essentially a meaningless hypothetical. You assume we have to, I disagree.

Ive said it once, to my knowledge.

Got us where, exactly? That's what I've asked you to address directly.

This also isn't any kind cogent thought, at best, and a straw man at worst.

Who's contesting this sarcasm?

Lol a joking exchange about golf. 'lel fuckin schooled!'. Nobacon is one of the dumbest posters here, brothaman, but defend him if you will. Wow, he writes codes about tariffs! He must understand the theory of economics! Jeets must be smartest people on earth then.

What detail would you like? From level of knowledge are you operating from? I've asked you to explain what are the issues we're facing and what got us there, yet you haven't. 'Things suck!' Ok, but what exactly sucks?

Do you want a history on tariffs and why/when they work and when they don't? Again, let me know what level we're starting from and I'll try to help you out. You got butthurt because I said there's some real stupidity in these threads, probably assuming I was talking about you.

Edit: joecumiaguitar

Maybe I missed it. How did you address the Chinese abusing the free trade market? Still no answers in any of your responses. Please elaborate.

My second question: How is it a meaningless hypothetical? We have exploited nations for the past century which has constituted the “spend money to make money” mentality. We exploited SA nations for decades, then moved on to the Middle East after the 90’s (you know, when the Jews attacked us and brought us into the Middle East). Which is backfiring greatly, because Muslims aren’t inherently greedy.

Third question: you have said it multiple times in one way or another, just in this thread. Yet never exposed any of your history or knowledge of the subject.

Fourth question: Where we are at, is a line. Do we continue our bubble of lies? Or do we make a shift and start doing hard work. I’m not convinced these tariffs are 100% the way either, but it’s a much better solution than to sit here and make fake money that won’t mean anything in 20 years. If you don’t think America is on the verge of collapse (I don’t mean in a biblical form where everyone just shoots eachother) you’re fucking retarded. It might not be today, but we’re on a very bad route. It needs correcting.

Fifth point: No it isn’t. It’s a statement on how you’re afraid you might have to buckle down and realize half the shit you consume is worthless, you retard.

Sixth point: Apparently you. You think it’s great to see americas biggest cities fail. Industry is actual money. What does America produce at this point besides war? That’s meaningless when you can no longer wage real war against countries.

Seventh point: Nope, I’m pretty sure it was in this very thread, where he told you his background in software and what he does. It’s about tariffs. I could not give a fuck less about golf, or if Trump lies about it or not. The faggot lies about his skin color. Who gives a fuck.

Eighth point: You still didn’t answer any of the questions I presented you, and just tried to deflect. Notice how I answered all of your statements, you will not do the same. You are a boomer, my guess is, you are a “consultant”. You are worthless to society and are upset that people are beginning to realize it.

I will once again, pose this question for everyone here: What is the better solution?

An answer cannot be “just not this”.

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

You can’t even explain the problem that the country has and which Trump is trying to fix. If you did, then we can get into the weeds about the tools he has and his approach, but you can’t even demonstrate you understand the fundamental principles in this topic.

I can. We have a bunch of problems. I've asked others to explain what they think the issues are. 'Things suck' is not sufficient.

I also think you’re a pedophile

You have tits and killed a child.

 

[BakersfieldChimp]

How is it a meaningless hypothetical?

You're implying we HAVE to take over some shit hole. We don't.

How did you address the Chinese abusing the free trade market? Still no answers in any of your responses. Please elaborate.

You have a trade war, with China and not the world. If your concern is them moving goods here from 3rd party countries then you tariff industries/specific goods. I've addressed this.

Where we are at, is a line. Do we continue our bubble of lies? Or do we make a shift and start doing hard work. I’m not convinced these tariffs are 100% the way either, but it’s a much better solution than to sit here and make fake money that won’t mean anything in 20 years. If you don’t think America is on the verge of collapse (I don’t mean in a biblical form where everyone just shoots eachother) you’re fucking retarded. It might not be today, but we’re on a very bad route. It needs correcting.

Ok, this is approaching a specific complaint. How do the current policies achieve this?

No it isn’t. It’s a statement on how you’re afraid you might have to buckle down and realize half the shit you consume is worthless, you retard.

Nigga you're talking about toys. I live as simply as possible and am pretty anti consumption.

Apparently you. You think it’s great to see americas biggest cities fail. Industry is actual money. What does America produce at this point besides war? That’s meaningless when you can no longer wage real war against countries.

Again, when did I claim we don't have issues? I want America to stay at the top and see our current policies weakening, not strengthening, our position.

You are a boomer, my guess is, you are a “consultant”. You are worthless to society and are upset that people are beginning to realize it.

I'm like the oldest possible millennial, I don't consult (well, maybe my entire industry indirectly does). I own my home outright and could probably retire in 5 years; I'll be fine.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

We’ve been in a trade war for a long time and we’ve been getting beat for most of it, Trump is trying to do something about it, and all you can bring up is effete rhetoric about golf boasting.

Be better, baby boy.

 

[MYTHCHILD]

@BakersfieldChimp is a hairdresser

 

[Suetonius]

If anyone actually thinks debt or spending is gonna be reduced you’re just retarded. Congress literally just passed a CR which raised the debt ceiling and increased spending. When Massie, Roy, and Paul protested this, Trump screamed at them on the phone to vote for it, called them RINO’s on twitter, and whipped his base into attacking them. Any money being “cut” by DOGE isn’t actually being cut because Congress isn’t doing it’s job and actually removing the funding it’s appropriating for these programs. Most of the contracts DOGE is cancelling have already been paid out and they can’t get that money back. The estimated savings went from $2 trillion to a couple billion - A drop in the bucket.

Trump did propose taxing the rich to raise revenue but Conservatives shut that down immediately. Tariffs could raise revenues but if spending increases it doesn’t matter how much the tariffs pull in. Plus Trump is walking around talking about giving everyone $5000 DOGE checks because the Republican base are fucking niggers looking for free gibme handouts lmao.

Trump and fiscal conservatism are oxymorons. Dumb nigger ran up our debt by insane amounts even if you exclude the printing he did during COVID. But surely in these last 4 years at 80 years old he’ll have a change of mind and see the light or something.

 

[Gay Faggot.]

You're implying we HAVE to take over some shit hole. We don't.

You have a trade war, with China and not the world. If your concern is them moving goods here from 3rd party countries then you tariff industries/specific goods. I've addressed this.

Ok, this is approaching a specific complaint. How do the current policies achieve this?

Nigga you're talking about toys. I live as simply as possible and am pretty anti consumption.

Again, when did I claim we don't have issues? I want America to stay at the top and see our current policies weakening, not strengthening, our position.

I'm like the oldest possible millennial, I don't consult (well, maybe my entire industry indirectly does). I own my home outright and could probably retire in 5 years; I'll be fine.

First point: The only way we continue is to find a new war. America actually produces almost nothing, at this point. Besides tools of war. I will continue to be vague, but there is only one major company in my industry that is based out of America. Everyone else? China, India (these two have massive tariffs against them yet, somehow, they’re still dominant) and Brazil. However, to your point. That’s what I’m saying. We have to do an economic shift. Waging war for profit no longer works. It’s that simple.

Second point: point to me where you’ve addressed this? I have not seen it. Maybe I’m mistaken. What’s your idea for fixing the fact that once we adjust to try and stop China from using the Vietnamese, they’ll move on to the Peruvians? Because they’ve already set up the infrastructure there. I’m interested in your solution, and where you have said it before. Or just give me a solution. Give me a good idea, because this is something I need to actually address in meetings. It’s one of the few things I don’t have a good answer for.

Third point: I have said I’m not 100% certain in the current policies. What I see is a fundamental change in thought process. That people need to change their way of thinking. As I said before, all of the people I work with voted for Trump. I’m watching them struggle with their greed. They thought Trump would just make them more money, and now that he’s not, they are struggling to come to grips with their ideas. Maybe it will work, maybe it won’t. I only have my sway as the only person saying “Good. Let’s change what we’re doing and be on the forefront”.

Third and fourth point are fair. You’re just complaining a lot about this, so it leads me to believe you’re freaking out because you now need to change your lifestyle. Which is typical.

Fifth point: Ok, so you are at the edges of the coattails boomers created. At best. If I had to guess, you are panicking because once again, you can’t actually do anything. In my industry, I can do everything. I can go back to the bottom and be the best. I can be the lowest worker, and prove how valuable I am. I’ve already done it. I worked my way up, because I’m not a retard. Now I’m the youngest person in all of these faggot meetings about where things are going. Now I have to shut my mouth about how they’re all cowards for voting for Trump, but are incredibly scared about the possible economics of it. As I’ve said before, I’m the only one who didn’t, solely because I don’t believe in this shit. They, much like you, have no real solution for the problems we have.