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That's the thing about Anthony Cumia. He's actually not a conservative at all - he just hates black people.
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That's the thing about Anthony Cumia. He's actually not a conservative at all - he just hates black people.
I honestly do think if they started a podcast after the 2014 contract was up they would be bigger than they were on Sirius. Not like Rogan famous but definitely a force in the podcasting world. O&A started to falter in popularity in the last years for a lot of reasons but the biggest it seems was being at SiriusXM. It locked them behind a paywall to where even the actual famous guys like Howard weren’t attracting new listeners. And of course then comes all the Sirius fuckery that literally screwed over the show: Shit like refusing to let them host the animation festival, refusing to let them do another tour ala the Virus shows, denying them a visual element, only giving them a “podcast” of quick hits in their last 2 years, and that’s not even getting into the lack of any O&A promotion from the company. Shelved for Book Radio…etc.No he wouldn't. He was already working in a dying industry and was the first person to leave the offices when the show was over so he didn't have the work ethic to do anything more than his radio show. He and Opie failed to understand that they were already entering obscurity due the rise of podcasting and didn't adapt in time.
I honestly don’t know if it’s about refusing to see the tides changing but not giving a shit. It’s actually weird how Anthonys racism increased while societies racism was decreasing. I think people forget Ant was making these rants years before “cancel culture” and other buzzwords became part of the cultural zeitgeist. Now a days half the jokes made on O&A would get Anthony fired, but for 2014 it literally took Ant going on twitter and saying they’re all animals who need to be exterminated before he was fired. And even THIS he did not understand what the problem was.He also got way too comfortable and never expected to be fired. He thought for the rest of his life he could be making millions a year spouting his racist shit without any consequences. The fact that he didn't notice how the political tide was changing and everything was becoming more sensitive and politicised and didn't change his ways is evident how out of touch he was becoming with reality.
The problem is is that Anthony went middle of the road. He didn’t start a comedy podcast and he didn’t start a political podcast, he made a confusing mix of both. Also not helping is the fact that it’s a network, not Nanas show, and the network has an equally confusing identity crisis about being for comedy or politics. This is actually just the most basic fucking thing and really shows Nanas incompetence and utter disregard for the shit he builds. Anyone making ANYTHING has to decide what it’s “about”. Not Nana. He’s just been winging it since forever.When he eventually got fired it was the perfect moment to start a conservative political podcast with all the Trump/MAGA shit going on but he was unable to capitalise on it because he'd rather do the very thing that got him fired: call black people niggers. So in that regard, you're right.
I honestly do think if they started a podcast after the 2014 contract was up they would be bigger than they were on Sirius. Not like Rogan famous but definitely a force in the podcasting world. O&A started to falter in popularity in the last years for a lot of reasons but the biggest it seems was being at SiriusXM. It locked them behind a paywall to where even the actual famous guys like Howard weren’t attracting new listeners. And of course then comes all the Sirius fuckery that literally screwed over the show: Shit like refusing to let them host the animation festival, refusing to let them do another tour ala the Virus shows, denying them a visual element, only giving them a “podcast” of quick hits in their last 2 years, and that’s not even getting into the lack of any O&A promotion from the company. Shelved for Book Radio…etc.
It could be argued if they started a podcast all these restrictions are removed. NO BOSSES NO MANAGEMENT - THEIR SHOW. However, this also assumes they have any energy to build the brand up from there which they obviously didn’t. So again - Even if they started a podcast in 2015 which is rather late I think they could have been successful and entered a second era even if they weren’t trying to. The simple format change from radio to a podcast would change things up enough.
I honestly don’t know if it’s about refusing to see the tides changing but not giving a shit. It’s actually weird how Anthonys racism increased while societies racism was decreasing. I think people forget Ant was making these rants years before “cancel culture” and other buzzwords became part of the cultural zeitgeist. Now a days half the jokes made on O&A would get Anthony fired, but for 2014 it literally took Ant going on twitter and saying they’re all animals who need to be exterminated before he was fired. And even THIS he did not understand what the problem was.
Anthonys firing is strange because its hard to tell what he even thinks about it, as his statements are so strange and contradictory. He regrets it but also would never apologize. He went too far but also we do things when we’re mad, and she attacked him! He’s not a racist, but he also doesn’t care that he is a racist. Depending on what year you ask him in he’ll give an answer for his firing, going from the actual incident, to claiming its because he told the truth about black crime.
Its hard to tell what he believes and what he’s bullshitting with. Does he genuinely believe he shouldn’t have been fired through an email? Does he genuinely believe he shouldn’t have been fired for something off air? Does he genuinely believe there was nothing problematic about those tweets, no less his on air bullshit? If all of the answers are yes he is severely out of touch to the point of delusion.
The problem is is that Anthony went middle of the road. He didn’t start a comedy podcast and he didn’t start a political podcast, he made a confusing mix of both. Also not helping is the fact that it’s a network, not Nanas show, and the network has an equally confusing identity crisis about being for comedy or politics. This is actually just the most basic fucking thing and really shows Nanas incompetence and utter disregard for the shit he builds. Anyone making ANYTHING has to decide what it’s “about”. Not Nana. He’s just been winging it since forever.
However, this also assumes they have any energy to build the brand up from there which they obviously didn’t. So again - Even if they started a podcast in 2015 which is rather late I think they could have been successful and entered a second era even if they weren’t trying to. The simple format change from radio to a podcast would change things up enough.
Building a brand isn’t about the money, at least thats not what i’m talking about. Sure, they both didn’t need the money at the time. But neither had an energy to continue O&A nor start their own things. I mean they did try…O&J and Compound which were not successful to put it lightly. They are both 60 years old. They want money and have no vision or thought behind making some groundbreaking show or one upping themselves 20 years later. Thats what made O&A so boring from 2013-2014. They were on autopilot because they didn’t give a shit, and I can’t imagine the need for money changing that 10 years later.Look at Opie Radio and TACN. Neither of them had that energy from 2014 until this very year.
They both need money. They will both get hungry again (literally)
Sure, they both didn’t need the money at the time. But neither had an energy to continue O&A nor start their own things.
I mean they did try…O&J and Compound which were not successful to put it lightly.
They were on autopilot because they didn’t give a shit, and I can’t imagine the need for money changing that 10 years later.
A lot to fawwkin break down here. First of all, it wasn’t a backup plan. This implies there was a first plan, which would be what? Reunite O&A? That was never planned as you know. Anthony never asked Opie if they would do a podcast after the contract ended which was literally a couple months later. Anthony never made any plans to have Opie come over and nor did Opie for him. As Opie, Anthony, and Jim have constantly stated: They always thought the whole show would get fired because it was always that way. So of course there was no contingency plan when only one did, especially if it wasn’t Jim. Second, I am not comparing the quality of their solo efforts to O&A. Obviously you can’t compare it as it’s just completely different….What i’m comparing is the energy. Again, we have heard countless times from Opie and Anthony how excited they were to do their solo things. How they were gonna build a new audience. Obviously that does not fit in with any sort of contingency plan for getting back together but rather staying apart. The energy wasn’t there for whatever reasons. The biggest being that they are simply technologically out of touch. Auntie has to hire Erock to do his network and Opie has talked before about how if O&A did a podcast he would have to contact his guysszz. Third…you are “blissfully unaware” of the point I was making. I was restating your point back to you because I was reiterating MY point about “Needing money doesn’t mean they have energy”, because they don’t. If they start O&A again its because of money, not because they think they can build some new big thing.That's not "trying." That's called using the skeleton that you built during the actual O&A show as a backup plan because disaster hit and you couldn't do the actual O&A show... Other white niggers on here have already compared O&A to their solo efforts, as if that's somehow the same exact show... Don't be like other white niggers.
Thats sad. Why would we want to see an O&A reunion for money, any reunion in fact. No soul, no heart…just two dudes who aren’t even friends doing a show together after 10 years apart…oh no except for those phone calls 5 years ago.Yeah, it's becoming increasingly clear to The DMANIACS that you can't imagine it, because you have no imagination.
The Money is the Motive.
A lot to fawwkin break down here. First of all, it wasn’t a backup plan. This implies there was a first plan, which would be what? Reunite O&A?
Anthony never asked Opie if they would do a podcast after the contract ended which was literally a couple months later.
Second, I am not comparing the quality of their solo efforts to O&A.
What i’m comparing is the energy.
Again, we have heard countless times from Opie and Anthony how excited they were to do their solo things. How they were gonna build a new audience. Obviously that does not fit in with any sort of contingency plan for getting back together but rather staying apart.
The biggest being that they are simply technologically out of touch.
Third…you are “blissfully unaware” of the point I was making.
“Needing money doesn’t mean they have energy”
If they start O&A again its because of money, not because they think they can build some new big thing.
Does that mean I wouldn’t enjoy an O&A reunion? No I would and would watch.
Citadel is coming back now, any day.This would only be true if he'd bought half a million shares of Google when they went public.
No. It wasn’t. Did you even read what I said? I’m not going to retype my entire point so just go reread it. Never did they imagine a back up plan. That was a last minute emergency scrambling.Opie & Jim and TACN were back up plans.
Yeah maybe i’m confused because all these years Opie and Ant were telling us how excited they were to be on their own and doing new things apart from each other. This is not my fault, take that up with Opie who said that shit for years.And now you're acting all confused that O&J and Compound didn't have the exact same drive or the exact same heat that a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT unified show had.
Driven by MONEY. Not the drive to make O&A a bigger and better brand. Again…like I said…this is exactly why O&A started getting shit towards the end. They stopped giving a fuck about the O&A brand and popularity and phoned it in for a check. So yes, a reunion where their sole goal is phoning it in for a check will be just as shit if not worse than late O&A.Anthony assumed Opie would join Compound, and then did ask Opie to join Compound at least 3 times as history has recorded. Opei didn't take the deal because it was not advantageous at the time. He wasn't driven to do O&A. Now he is.
Again…no. That is not what i’m saying. I’m saying that if they didn’t have the drive to do O&A 10 years ago, and didn’t have the drive to do their own solo ventures, why the fuck would they have the drive to do O&A now. Money? We all know when partners reunite for artistic efforts and the goal is money the work is always amazing. These two faggots together handed the show off to other people. When they split up they individually delegated responsibilities to their handlers. When they reunite they will inevitably do the same. You will not be getting classic O&A where they were hungry and striving for something.No, you are suggesting that it would follow that O&J and Compound would have the exact same drive or the exact same heat that a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT unified show had... As stated previously in this very post.
So what you’re saying is because their solo ventures were smaller of course they wouldn’t have the energy to…give a fuck about their show and try to make it bigger? Why did O&A have so much energy at their start when they were so small? Because they wanted to be bigger. That is my ENTIRE point about their “energy”. None of them strive to make themselves bigger. And what you’re leaving out is that O&A lost their energy BEFORE the show broke up, so what was the excuse for not trying then?Pointless, dogshit comparison that is utterly meaningless because O&J and Compound were not O&A.... Especially considering there were better offers out there... Especially considering the money situation was very different for both back then.... Especially considering they were tired of each other after over 10 years of looking at each other's dumb faces on a daily basis... Especially considering the podcasting industry itself was totally different than it is now. Why does this need to be explained to you? Do you really need someone to tell you that 11 o'clock is totally different than 1:30 PM? Where the fuck are right now, fans? Is this /r/TACN?
That is some serious cope where you spend 10 years doing your own solo venture and trashing your former partner saying his work is shit, he was useless, and you’ll never work with him again. No, the “cope” was that they convinced themselves they would be fine on their own. Again, as we’ve both stated the only reason this is happening is MONEY. That doesn’t make a good show.It's called "cope." Coping is something you do after disaster strikes. Are you going to make The DMAN explain something for a 4th or 5th time in his exact same post? How many different ways can he say the same thing before Naysaying White Niggers without a clue will finally catch on?
You’re being so feisty for no reason. Let me once again explain the point i was making…These fucking retards thought it was hard to bring podcasting equipment in the studio. Nana started a whole network instead of a simple show. Opie constantly claimed he’d need guys to setup the podcasting thing. NONE OF THEM COULD DO IT ON THEIR OWN. They may know how to do a show but they don’t know shit about podcasting or technology. I want to watch them try to set up some O&A show and see the ideas they’d come up with. Not one of them would be “Lets just do a simple show on Youtube with chats and a Patreon.”Opie seems to be doing just fine accepting cash donations on StreamYard, a tool that was created specifically because the podcasting market has become viable and is currently booming. Now you're just pissing The DMAN off with these obvious non sequiturs meant to serve as some kind of "explanation" when they're really just confused questions in your own Zoomer mind.
I was and you missed it.You made no point. You didn't really have anything to say but that didn't stop you from talking. And chomp.
Refer to last paragraph etc etc….What motivated O&A at the start was getting a bigger paycheck AND a bigger name for themselves. Those two things work hand in hand. Again with the artist comparisons…Theres people who play music to be famous, then theres people who play music and want to be famous. They’re doing the former currently and have for 10 years.Yes, our entire capitalistic system is based on the concept that money doesn't actually really motivate any business or any person to do anything.... You were right, Rupert.. And we? We were wrong.
Again, you missed the point.HOLY SHIT..... You just took time out of your day to argue a case that even you don't agree with.
Yeah, am I? I made a comment about my opinion and you overreacted. You’ve been freaking out since the CorradoSoprano4 shit at anyone with even a whiff of dissent, and we all know what Thomas Jefferson said about that.Honestly, just quiet down for a minute, maybe take a break from the Forum for a few days. First that CorradoSoprano4 debacle, now this? You are plummeting your goodwill faster than Anthony did in the Summer of 2014.
Opie's show with the Cuban wasn't the greatest but he seemed to be getting into a flow, more listenable than O&A / J&S & he sounded like he genuinely enjoyed it.I mean they did try…O&J and Compound which were not successful to put it lightly.
This is so heated for no reason
No. It wasn’t. Did you even read what I said? I’m not going to retype my entire point so just go reread it.
Yeah maybe i’m confused because all these years Opie and Ant were telling us how excited they were to be on their own and doing new things apart from each other. This is not my fault, take that up with Opie who said that shit for years.
We all know when partners reunite for artistic efforts and the goal is money the work is always amazing.
You’re being so feisty for no reason.
I don’t know what world you have to be living in to believe an O&A reunion would be like some late 90’s O&A banter shit.
So what you’re saying is because their solo ventures were smaller of course they wouldn’t have the energy to…give a fuck about their show and try to make it bigger? Why did O&A have so much energy at their start when they were so small?
Settle down spade.
I'll definitely be tuning in for the big reunion, but I won't pay for it. I'll just wait for some retard to post it online for free. I hate paying for online content, and I'll sure as hell never pay to listen to a goddamned RADIO. Just last night I was on some site where you upload pictures of girls and it de-clotheses them, which sounded kind of fun. And it worked, too, except they blur the finished pic all out unless you pay, which involves buying fucking crypto coins and blah blah blah, at which point I stopped caring. Sure there are others like me, who just shun the idea of paying for online crap, right?
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