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I Wanna See the Courthouse Movie! - Part 3

Chive Turkey

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I don't get why Minc would've let him go though. They got paid likely six figures for this case and Brinton did everything he could for his client. Lawyers lose cases all the time and don't get fired over it. The only really questionable thing he may have done is access the private area of the site with the backdoor (teehee) credentials the mole provided.
I'm not a lawfag but I'm guessing that going to trial is a bad enough fuck up for this type of lawyering. Lawyers do lose all the time but that's in areas where they have half a chance. With Internet defamation cases there's the trouble of typically weak suits made by delusional narcissists like Patrick coupled with quite strong and clear legal provisions for free speech on the Internet, with the added difficulty of identifying people obfuscating their identity online thrown in. I can't imagine many of these cases being decided in favor of the plaintiff in court, which is why speedy intimidation to force a settlement is the name of the game.

You have to keep in mind that the typical victim of firms like Minc Law is someone who's not very Internet-savvy or willing to die on a hill like this. Likely a lot of them are dummies on social media using their own name who don't want to pay lawyer's fees because they called someone stupid on the Internet, so they buckle. Whenever these shysters encounter someone who puts up a fight, it never ends well for them because the law tends to be on the side of the cyberstlaker.
 

Cuphead

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I'm not a lawfag but I'm guessing that going to trial is a bad enough fuck up for this type of lawyering. Lawyers do lose all the time but that's in areas where they have half a chance. With Internet defamation cases there's the trouble of typically weak suits made by delusional narcissists like Patrick coupled with quite strong and clear legal provisions for free speech on the Internet, with the added difficulty of identifying people obfuscating their identity online thrown in. I can't imagine many of these cases being decided in favor of the plaintiff in court, which is why speedy intimidation to force a settlement is the name of the game.

You have to keep in mind that the typical victim of firms like Minc Law is someone who's not very Internet-savvy or willing to die on a hill like this. Likely a lot of them are dummies on social media using their own name who don't want to pay lawyer's fees because they called someone stupid on the Internet, so they buckle. Whenever these shysters encounter someone who puts up a fight, it never ends well for them because the law tends to be on the side of the cyberstlaker.
Remember too that Pat pretty much hinted that Brinton told him that his cause was going to be tough and probably not worth pursuing and Pat did anyway because he couldn't let the idiots win.
 
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I'm not a lawfag but I'm guessing that going to trial is a bad enough fuck up for this type of lawyering. Lawyers do lose all the time but that's in areas where they have half a chance. With Internet defamation cases there's the trouble of typically weak suits made by delusional narcissists like Patrick coupled with quite strong and clear legal provisions for free speech on the Internet, with the added difficulty of identifying people obfuscating their identity online thrown in. I can't imagine many of these cases being decided in favor of the plaintiff in court, which is why speedy intimidation to force a settlement is the name of the game.

You have to keep in mind that the typical victim of firms like Minc Law is someone who's not very Internet-savvy or willing to die on a hill like this. Likely a lot of them are dummies on social media using their own name who don't want to pay lawyer's fees because they called someone stupid on the Internet, so they buckle. Whenever these shysters encounter someone who puts up a fight, it never ends well for them because the law tends to be on the side of the cyberstlaker.
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BudDickman

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Pat did say that it was a surprise to him that he could be held liable for Quasi's legal fees. If Brinton didn't tell him that, I could see that being grounds for them to fire him, since he is potentially exposing the firm to a malpractice claim.

Of course, Pat could just be lying about that for sympathy, or maybe he was told about the legal consequences but didn't listen because he was too busy fantasizing about prison for Quasi.
 

Harry Powell

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Remember too that Pat pretty much hinted that Brinton told him that his cause was going to be tough and probably not worth pursuing and Pat did anyway because he couldn't let the idiots win.

Pat also said his lawyer told him to stop responding but Patrick explained how and why his case was SPECIAL and he had to continue correcting the record.
 
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The Greaseman

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Pat did say that it was a surprise to him that he could be held liable for Quasi's legal fees. If Brinton didn't tell him that, I could see that being grounds for them to fire him, since he is potentially exposing the firm to a malpractice claim.

Of course, Pat could just be lying about that for sympathy, or maybe he was told about the legal consequences but didn't listen because he was too busy fantasizing about prison for Quasi.
I mean, he didn't know what pleading "no contest" meant even though he had done it before.
 

Dani's Thick Legsters

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Pat did say that it was a surprise to him that he could be held liable for Quasi's legal fees. If Brinton didn't tell him that, I could see that being grounds for them to fire him, since he is potentially exposing the firm to a malpractice claim.

Of course, Pat could just be lying about that for sympathy, or maybe he was told about the legal consequences but didn't listen because he was too busy fantasizing about prison for Quasi.
"gamesmanship"

Remember, Brinton thought the case had jurisdiction in Wisconsin and was subject to Wisconsin law. He was so incompetent that he had no idea quashes are filed in the state of the party being subpeona'd, in this case California (Cloudflare). Which not only has strong anti-SLAPP laws which instakill the lawsuit, but also mandatory award of legal fees. Brinton, HAD NO CLUE THIS WOULD HAPPEN, and thus failed to satisfy Krinsky.
 

Slackjawed Cow

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"gamesmanship"

Remember, Brinton thought the case had jurisdiction in Wisconsin and was subject to Wisconsin law. He was so incompetent that he had no idea quashes are filed in the state of the party being subpeona'd, in this case California (Cloudflare). Which not only has strong anti-SLAPP laws which instakill the lawsuit, but also mandatory award of legal fees. Brinton, HAD NO CLUE THIS WOULD HAPPEN, and thus failed to satisfy Krinsky.
I bet they thought they would overwhelm quasi with legal fees and he would have to tap out trying to finance court in two different states. You could tell they werent expecting that when Josiah got pat to say " How can he afford this!?"
 

WheelchairFred

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Patty should have stuck with Carrie Goldberg, then he'd also be nobody's victim. Why didn't he stick with her, anyway? Did she turn down the case? Too expensive for 6 figure author? He got his Twitter back for a bargain $5k and then decided Brinton was the man for the job.

I sometimes wonder if Nicole Ways or Brinton or even Pena or Jerry could have ever guessed what they were getting into. Did Pena ever imagine he'd have el tigre fan gifs? Did Brinton ever expect his sister and family to start getting weird texts and have their Instagrams dissected by a pool of autists? Maybe after getting his Twitter back and seeing what was happening to her contact forms and the Norma Buster fanfic, Carrie knew it was too much trouble to keep Pat as a client.
 

Cuphead

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Patty should have stuck with Carrie Goldberg, then he'd also be nobody's victim. Why didn't he stick with her, anyway? Did she turn down the case? Too expensive for 6 figure author? He got his Twitter back for a bargain $5k and then decided Brinton was the man for the job.

I sometimes wonder if Nicole Ways or Brinton or even Pena or Jerry could have ever guessed what they were getting into. Did Pena ever imagine he'd have el tigre fan gifs? Did Brinton ever expect his sister and family to start getting weird texts and have their Instagrams dissected by a pool of autists? Maybe after getting his Twitter back and seeing what was happening to her contact forms and the Norma Buster fanfic, Carrie knew it was too much trouble to keep Pat as a client.
I'm pretty sure Carrie told him he had no case after the Twitter stuff and refused to work with him anymore
 

Slackjawed Cow

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Patty should have stuck with Carrie Goldberg, then he'd also be nobody's victim. Why didn't he stick with her, anyway? Did she turn down the case? Too expensive for 6 figure author? He got his Twitter back for a bargain $5k and then decided Brinton was the man for the job.

I sometimes wonder if Nicole Ways or Brinton or even Pena or Jerry could have ever guessed what they were getting into. Did Pena ever imagine he'd have el tigre fan gifs? Did Brinton ever expect his sister and family to start getting weird texts and have their Instagrams dissected by a pool of autists? Maybe after getting his Twitter back and seeing what was happening to her contact forms and the Norma Buster fanfic, Carrie knew it was too much trouble to keep Pat as a client.
I dont think Carrie is licensed to practice law in wisconsin and she might have recommended Minc Law to pat since they both seem to use the similar tactic of racking up billable hours on silly internet lawsuits.
 

Harry Powell

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Patty should have stuck with Carrie Goldberg, then he'd also be nobody's victim. Why didn't he stick with her, anyway? Did she turn down the case? Too expensive for 6 figure author? He got his Twitter back for a bargain $5k and then decided Brinton was the man for the job.

I sometimes wonder if Nicole Ways or Brinton or even Pena or Jerry could have ever guessed what they were getting into. Did Pena ever imagine he'd have el tigre fan gifs? Did Brinton ever expect his sister and family to start getting weird texts and have their Instagrams dissected by a pool of autists? Maybe after getting his Twitter back and seeing what was happening to her contact forms and the Norma Buster fanfic, Carrie knew it was too much trouble to keep Pat as a client.

Peña isn’t even aware of the gifs. Faggots get distracted by shit like that. He was busy slamming puss and working the case. The second it was over he climbed the next rung on the ladder of success and never looked back.
 

WheelchairFred

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I dont think Carrie is licensed to practice law in wisconsin and she might have recommended Minc Law to pat since they both seem to use the similar tactic of racking up billable hours on silly internet lawsuits.
Brinton is based out of Cleveland Ohio, that's why they had to get that mousey snack Nicole Trevino Ways in the mix, she actually practices in Wisconsin. Speaking of which, Ways has moved out of her old firm and is now doing corporate counsel. https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-trevino-ways-23813149

Speaking of moves, looks like Brinton landed with a new firm. https://calkinslawfirm.com/about-us/our-attorneys-staff/brinton-j-resto/ - glad the guy landed somewhere, his private practice was going to go nowhere fast. "Mr. Resto diligently works to bring clients a proactive approach in a cost-effective manner." Yeah for which side though?

Thanks for watching this Where Are They Now? episode. But I think this means Carrie told Pat no or maybe made a polite referral or something, or she was just too expensive.
 

Slackjawed Cow

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Brinton is based out of Cleveland Ohio, that's why they had to get that mousey snack Nicole Trevino Ways in the mix, she actually practices in Wisconsin. Speaking of which, Ways has moved out of her old firm and is now doing corporate counsel. https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-trevino-ways-23813149

Speaking of moves, looks like Brinton landed with a new firm. https://calkinslawfirm.com/about-us/our-attorneys-staff/brinton-j-resto/ - glad the guy landed somewhere, his private practice was going to go nowhere fast. "Mr. Resto diligently works to bring clients a proactive approach in a cost-effective manner." Yeah for which side though?

Thanks for watching this Where Are They Now? episode. But I think this means Carrie told Pat no or maybe made a polite referral or something, or she was just too expensive.
Another possible variable is that since the SFWA was paying the lions share that they picked the representation.
 

Patrick O'Neal

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