Elon offers to buy Twitter….we know how Piggy feels about Elon and Twitter.

[Stent]

Tax and spend, amirite?

 

[Uncle Anthony Cumia]

Elon is everything Piggy wishes he was.

Elon is basically a real world Tony Stark, and Pat loves that Capeshit nonsense

 

[Uncle Anthony Cumia]

I love how this thread got hijacked by “capitalism bad” Elon haters. The point was that Piggy hates Elon but literally lives on Twitter, and the sad irony the one thing he loves is under a possible hostile takeover by the man he loves to hate. Quit losing the point.

 

[Volkov]

I love how this thread got hijacked by “capitalism bad” Elon haters. The point was that Piggy hates Elon but literally lives on Twitter, and the sad irony the one thing he loves is under a possible hostile takeover by the man he loves to hate. Quit losing the point.

Shut up control freak, stop trying to steer the ship ope

 

[Uncle Anthony Cumia]

Shut up control freak, stop trying to steer the ship ope

Fair enough guess I was being too protective of my post! Been doin this since I’m 18!

 

[MunchausenByProxy]

I think I know why Pats pissed. He pays money to be on a list of unsuspendable accounts. Elon seems like a big free speech guy so he would make it much harder for people to get suspended, making Pats special little boys club pretty much worthless.

Of course this is all going on the huge assumption that Musk makes any changes at all, but Im just trying to think like a pig

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

I think I know why Pats pissed. He pays money to be on a list of unsuspendable accounts. Elon seems like a big free speech guy so he would make it much harder for people to get suspended, making Pats special little boys club pretty much worthless.

Of course this is all going on the huge assumption that Musk makes any changes at all, but Im just trying to think like a pig

It’s why he’s so angry lately, much more than usual. He’s seriously stressed about Elon taking over his favorite toy which would put him in a serious dilemma - stay on twitter that’s run by evil rich man Musk or quit in protest. Pat has spent years on building his twitter and is too old and ugly to gain a following on Instagram or Tik Tock so he can’t leave. He’s stuck between a rock and a hard place, child.

 

[MonsterSteve]

I remember watching a penn and teller bullshit from 2005~ and they were absolutely mortified and shocked by the number one trillion, fast forward 15 years and there’s trillions announced every few months, tacked onto a debt that’s so ludicrously massive it’s completely retarded to compare it to 25 years ago

Every super power has its day, every super power has its time with the leading reserve currency. A day of reckoning is absolutely coming.

btw Amazon reinvests profits into itself, what the fuck does Tesla do except hype made up tech that’s always about to come out and never does?

How come all of your 'knowledge' comes from TV shows like Bullshit or Youtube videos? Go watch loose change faggot and let me know what you think.

 

[TorqueWheeler]

You guys ever notice how fat and stupid, Pat is?

 

[Uncle Anthony Cumia]

You guys ever notice how fat and stupid, Pat is?

You know on the surface he does seem like some kind of StealthyGeek, when you look deeper though, he’s basically Bluto from Animal House with less knowledge of history and less impressive drinking skills.

 

[guest]

Remember when Fatrick blogged about what he learned from his first suspension? You know, about not putting all your eggs in one basket (i.e. social media platform)?

Well that's what he's done by giving up on YouTube, abandoning Reddit and his blog, and not branching out into TikTok or other hip platforms. This is all Captain America Pat has left and it's about to be owned by Thanos. Muahahahahahaha

 

[FurBurger]

I’m gonna be the biggest retard here and jump in. Your guys’ definitions of “success” is different.

Jerkstore is saying they are successful doing what they doThey are playing the game and succeeding at it. Maybe long term it’s not going to work but, currently, doing well.

Fur and bacon are saying it’s not successful because it’s creating a bubble that’s doomed to pop. Many business’ operate this way in America. It’s what creates so many problems in the country in the first place. It’s not ackshuly successful.

There. Now I’m the biggest retard and you can all hop on me for being a gay faggot.

Kind of. Jerkstore thinks they're successful because he's buying the hype, and putting their losses down to some sort of theoretical research (i.e. more hype). He's argued that they're successful because they make a 30% markup on each car, for example, but that's no good if they need a 40% markup to be profitable.

Me, I like measuring companies by profit and loss, with a couple of years up front to get established. Tesla's ten years in, though, and they don't seem to have produced any actual breakthroughs, and their only profits are from government hand-outs.

 

[BillyCorgan'sFallenTree]

Let me get this straight

Pig loves twitter. He thinks that aside from not doing enough to help the police put cyberstalkers in jail it's doing an A-Okay job. Some of twitters largest shareholders and most influential people behind the scenes look like this

Saudis good Elon bad. But not so fast, because if I recall Rick Thomas has a serious problem with Saudi Arabia - or at least he claims to from when they killed St. Kashoggi




Now maybe I'm wrong here, but doesn't the Pig seem to be a bit of a flip flopper when it comes to these sand niggers? When they're limiting free speech and booting Trump off of his beloved twitter he's a big fan, but when they're murdering a journalist/member of the muslim brotherhood they're evil. I don't know, maybe he's just a fat moron who chooses sides based on whichever side Trump isn't on.

 

[FurBurger]

Amazon is an example of a profitless company for like damn near 30 years.

...and Amazon's about the only one, too. Bezos skirted the fucking edge of having Amazon being bought and sold for parts for years, until he was able to show dominance in the book trade; and that gave Wall Street more confidence to let him continue. That's as much luck as skill; one wrong move and the guy would have been fucked.

If you want to use Amazon as an example, then Tesla should have become the largest US car seller about five years ago, stomping out Ford and Toyota, just as Amazon became the dominant book seller.

Spacex is putting rockets and shit into space and doing it cheaper than NASA ever did.

Nope, more hype. NASA are being charged more per kilo into low earth orbit with SpaceX than with the shuttle.

(I can link to a video proving that, going through quotes and contracts and NASA budget line items, if that's not too autistic for you)

Tesla doesn't have any novel or interesting technology it sure is strange that all the major car companies are panicking and trying to emulate what they've done

...according to Tesla they are... but that's just more hype.

I love how this thread got hijacked by “capitalism bad” Elon haters.

Capitalism's great, I like what Musk's doing with SpaceX, and like the idea of Tesla and self-driving electric cars but don't like calling it "successful" when it's solely propped up by welfare. I don't like calling Pat a "successful author" for the same reason.

 

[Mike Glyer]

...and Amazon's about the only one, too. Bezos skirted the fucking edge of having Amazon being bought and sold for parts for years, until he was able to show dominance in the book trade; and that gave Wall Street more confidence to let him continue. That's as much luck as skill; one wrong move and the guy would have been fucked.

Bullshit. Amazon is just the 700 lb gorilla. I've worked for two companies that started off as ventures and weren't profitable for over a decade. They both are doing very well now. They just aren't one of the largest companies in the world. The standard can't be being unprofitable until becoming a top 3 company by revenue in the world. Then of course Amazon is about the only one.

If you want to use Amazon as an example, then Tesla should have become the largest US car seller about five years ago, stomping out Ford and Toyota, just as Amazon became the dominant book seller.

Comparing book distribution to car manufacturing is suspect at best and I don't think saying Tesla is a vaporware/welfare company because it didn't literally destroy every other car manufacturer (as Amazon did to book distributors) is fair.

Nope, more hype. NASA are being charged more per kilo into low earth orbit with SpaceX than with the shuttle.

I don't see those numbers anywhere. I keep seeing $60MM-$90MM compared to NASA's $150MM per launch with an expectation of even lower costs in the future (this was before inflation got nuts). If NASA is putting less kilos per launch on a rocket then I don't know what to say. They could be retarded like that.

(I can link to a video proving that, going through quotes and contracts and NASA budget line items, if that's not too autistic for you)

You can also just find a screencap/link or something of the documented numbers so I don't have to watch some grifter. I'm guessing he cites his source. Rather just see the primary documentation.

...according to Tesla they are... but that's just more hype.

Am I imagining the major automobile companies pushing out EVs to compete with Tesla? I get that Tesla is licensing the technology or the manufacturing process with battery partners and it's not 100% them but if nothing is new or impressive with Tesla then why did all the car companies snooze on the demand for almost 1,000,000 EVs that Tesla sold last year?

Capitalism's great, I like what Musk's doing with SpaceX, and like the idea of Tesla and self-driving electric cars but don't like calling it "successful" when it's solely propped up by welfare. I don't like calling Pat a "successful author" for the same reason.

The government incentived EV purchases by offering a federal rebate. If that's welfare then I guess yeah it's welfare. But they also subsidize the shit out of oil and gas companies via tax breaks for exploration and development so everyone in that sector is a welfare company in that case.

Pat is fat.

 

[FurBurger]

Bullshit. Amazon is just the 700 lb gorilla.

So, you used Amazon as an example, and then when I used it, it's suddenly not a good example. Got it.

I've worked for two companies that started off as ventures and weren't profitable for over a decade.

Yes, and my dad's bigger than your dad.

I don't think saying Tesla is a vaporware/welfare company because it didn't literally destroy every other car manufacturer (as Amazon did to book distributors) is fair.

That's good, because I didn't say it.

I did say that Tesla's profits to date have been grossly outweighed by their government carbon credits, and I've provided evidence of that. I left off their factory and other subsidies, which come to another $2.5 billion, and that leaves out foreign subsidies - here's China offering $325 million, here's Germany offering $1.2 billion for one of them free factories.

Do you think, if governments gave you $6.2 billion and ten years to get started, you could ship a million cars a year? You'd be starting with an existing factory full of gear - an old GM factory in this case, with some gear picked up cheap from Detroit during the Global Financial Crisis of 2008.

You can also just find a screencap/link or something of the documented numbers so I don't have to watch some grifter. I'm guessing he cites his source. Rather just see the primary documentation.

Start here, with John Yemenick's email about the contract release; but he also cites NASA payload specialist and space station engineer Ravi Quasi's-surname. I think the watching whole thing would provide you some much-needed perspective, though.

Am I imagining the major automobile companies pushing out EVs to compete with Tesla?

Compete with Tesla, or were they waiting for the price/performance of batteries and EVs to come down? Let's ask Henry Ford:

“Within a year, I hope, we shall begin the manufacture of an electric automobile,” Mr. Ford told The New York Times in January 1914. “The problem so far has been to build a storage battery of light weight which would operate for long distances without recharging.”

I get that Tesla is licensing the technology or the manufacturing process with battery partners and it's not 100% them but if nothing is new or impressive with Tesla then why did all the car companies snooze on the demand for almost 1,000,000 EVs that Tesla sold last year?

They're big, and slow moving. The same thing happened in the 70s with the fuel crisis; it took the big manufacturers time to make the switch to smaller, lighter cars. Smaller, newer manufacturers (especially Japanese) got the jump on them; and we're seeing the same thing with EVs (hello, Wuling DingDong Chinpoko EV).

The government incentived EV purchases by offering a federal rebate. If that's welfare then I guess yeah it's welfare.

What I'm talking about Tesla get money to help them transition from gasoline cars, to electric cars, even though they've never made a gasoline car. This is more money than their profit over the company's entire history.

That's welfare.

To put it another way, Elon invested $100 million into Tesla; the US taxpayer invested nearly $6 billion, and yet somehow ended up with zero shares.

That's welfare.

Pat is fat.

...something all men of substance can agree on.

 

[NoBacon]

 

[guest]

Kind of. Jerkstore thinks they're successful because he's buying the hype, and putting their losses down to some sort of theoretical research (i.e. more hype). He's argued that they're successful because they make a 30% markup on each car, for example, but that's no good if they need a 40% markup to be profitable.

Me, I like measuring companies by profit and loss, with a couple of years up front to get established. Tesla's ten years in, though, and they don't seem to have produced any actual breakthroughs, and their only profits are from government hand-outs.

Holy shit are you guys dumb. They’re losing money because they’re spending a shitload of money building factories and other shit. They could just stop building factories and sell relatively low volume of cars and keep the 30%. Companies who are rapidly expanding don’t earn profit while doing that. How is that
hard for you to grasp?

I’ve said repeatedly that they are way over hyped and I don’t buy into all Elon’s bullshit but you morons are so trained to call anyone saying anything remotely positive about Tesla an Elon dicksucker that you can’t even objectively read what I’m saying.

Tesla is a successful company, that is about as close as it gets to inarguable truth. That doesn’t mean they will be successful forever or that Elon is a genius or a good guy or any of that other shit you people keep bringing up that I never said.

HURRRRRRR if you don’t make profit you go bankrupt.

yes, eventually you would and they almost did before the model 3 came out but they made it through and those started selling like hotcakes and continue to do so. If you think they’re about to go bankrupt then go ahead and run a projection on that and let me know how long you think it will take with data. I’ll help you start, they had $18B of cash on hand at the end of 2021. Ok go.

 

[NoBacon]

“Selling like hot cakes”

Ford sell more cars per month than total model 3s sold last year.

Lifetime Tesla sales is under 2 million, annual Ford sales numbers is 15 million.

Tesla only keeps the lights on because of tax payer handouts. Only turns a slender profit today because of fraudlent carbon credit handouts. Musk and his dumbo brother dump stocks before mass recalls but pretends it’s because of twitter polls.

If that’s how you define success, you’re the reason the country is the way it is and will welcome in our new evil Chinese overlords

When I see someone with a Tesla I immediately know they’re a retard who probably spent an inheritance on it. Just buy a Prius if you want to show everyone you’re a homosexual.

 

[NoBacon]

Holy shit are you guys dumb. They’re losing money because they’re spending a shitload of money building factories and other shit. They could just stop building factories and sell relatively low volume of cars and keep the 30%. Companies who are rapidly expanding don’t earn profit while doing that. How is that
hard for you to grasp?

I’ve said repeatedly that they are way over hyped and I don’t buy into all Elon’s bullshit but you morons are so trained to call anyone saying anything remotely positive about Tesla an Elon dicksucker that you can’t even objectively read what I’m saying.

Tesla is a successful company, that is about as close as it gets to inarguable truth. That doesn’t mean they will be successful forever or that Elon is a genius or a good guy or any of that other shit you people keep bringing up that I never said.

HURRRRRRR if you don’t make profit you go bankrupt.

yes, eventually you would and they almost did before the model 3 came out but they made it through and those started selling like hotcakes and continue to do so. If you think they’re about to go bankrupt then go ahead and run a projection on that and let me know how long you think it will take with data. I’ll help you start, they had $18B of cash on hand at the end of 2021. Ok go.

Tesla is a worthless accounting fraud
pumped up by fake narratives, lies, and phony
numbers. It will go the way of SENE $WCOM $LK, $WDI and Madoff. A few years ago you’d probably be saying how revolutionary theranos is and how Elizabeth holmes is successful