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WWAW Owen Benjamin thinking nuclear bombs are fake?

LingerLonger

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Haha nuclear generators produce steam? How, exactly?
Are you retarded? Nuclear reactors generate heat. The core becomes hot to the point of potentially melting. Water is continually poured onto the reactor to cool it down and prevent melting. The steam produced from there is funneled into a gas turbine. The turbine powers entire cities. This is literally how everything from steamboats to nuclear powerplants work and is the basis for practically every form of power or propulsion of travel.
 

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Are you retarded? Nuclear reactors generate heat. The core becomes hot to the point of potentially melting. Water is continually poured onto the reactor to cool it down and prevent melting. The steam produced from there is funneled into a gas turbine. The turbine powers entire cities. This is literally how everything from steamboats to nuclear powerplants work and is the basis for practically every form of power or propulsion of travel.
Yes but you know that the mechanism of how it makes that heat isn't just magic right
 

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Honestly? I don't know. I do not know that. I never thought about dat, Whoopi. I am not a rocket scientist, so I do not know if those bombs are actually real. I have never been hit with one, I have never watched one go off. I cannot say from my personal experience whether they are real or not... I am too busy worrying about putting food on my baby table. Mmm-Hmm.
 

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Just more mind control like the space race and moon landing hoaxes. Also huge money. Our annual taxes for nuclear weapons and NASA are in the hundreds of billions. Money that is definitely being spent on something other than things that do not exist.

Keep in mind that just like nuclear weapons, all countries are also in on the fake space race and moon landings.

Nuclear generators are real. So are large bombs. You can literally blow a waterway through an entire country like the Panama Canal it just takes forever. You can power ships and cities with nuclear generators but all they produce is steam and cannot actually blow up like a bomb.
Pictured here cover of Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother album:

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Geesin pointed to a copy of the Evening Standard, and suggested to Waters that he would find a title in there. The headline was: "ATOM HEART MOTHER NAMED", a story about a woman being fitted with a nuclear-powered pacemaker.[19][20]
These kinds of of radioisotope 'batteries' have been around for decades. Radioactive material with sufficient half-life naturally decaying and putting out heat, some of which can be converted to electricity using thermocouples. They require no moving parts and the heat generation can't be turned off. It would probably be possible to build a nuclear cell phone 'battery' that would last decades without needing any sort of recharge. It would be prohibitively expensive and also extremely deadly if the shielding was breached.

Nuclear reactors are not like this. They use critical mass designs to allow sustained nuclear chain reaction. Atom undergoes nuclear fission, neutrons fly out and trigger other suitable nearby atoms to do the same, and so on, releasing heat. The rate of the chain reaction is controlled with different methods, usually physically moving control rods that are designed to slow down and absorb the neutrons. They are also cooled with water or other materials. The coolant is then directly or indirectly used to generate electricity.

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On 2 December 1942, the first human-made self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction was initiated in CP-1, during an experiment led by Enrico Fermi.

--Fermi, Compton, Anderson and Zinn gathered around the controls on the balcony, which was originally intended as a viewing platform.[93] Samuel Allison stood ready with a bucket of concentrated cadmium nitrate, which he was to throw over the pile in the event of an emergency. The startup began at 09:54. Walter Zinn removed the zip, the emergency control rod, and secured it.[93][94] Norman Hilberry stood ready with an axe to cut the scram line, which would allow the zip to fall under the influence of gravity.[94][95] While Leona Woods called out the count from the boron trifluoride detector in a loud voice, George Weil, the only one on the floor, withdrew all but one of the control rods. At 10:37 Fermi ordered Weil to remove all but 13 feet (4.0 m) of the last control rod. Weil withdrew it 6 inches (15 cm) at a time, with measurements being taken at each step.[93][94]

The process was abruptly halted by the automatic control rod reinserting itself, due to its trip level being set too low.[96] At 11:25, Fermi ordered the control rods reinserted. He then announced that it was lunch time.[93]

The experiment resumed at 14:00.[93] Weil worked the final control rod while Fermi carefully monitored the neutron activity. Fermi announced that the pile had gone critical (reached a self-sustaining reaction) at 15:25. Fermi switched the scale on the recorder to accommodate the rapidly increasing electrical current from the boron trifluoride detector. He wanted to test the control circuits, but after 28 minutes, the alarm bells went off to notify everyone that the neutron flux had passed the preset safety level, and he ordered Zinn to release the zip. The reaction rapidly halted.[97][94] The pile had run for about 4.5 minutes at about 0.5 watts.[98] Wigner opened a bottle of Chianti, which they drank from paper cups.[99]
At Fukushima, at the first sign of trouble the safety system automatically dropped the control rods fully into the reactor immediately ending the chain reaction. The fission products already in the core however kept naturally decaying and generating heat (like those nuclear 'batteries') and because the coolant circulation was lost, the core overheated and eventually melted down.

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During the City of Manhattan Project they had a pretty good theoretical understanding of what they were doing, and were playing around with tabletop near-critical-devices.

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The demon core was a spherical 6.2-kilogram (14 lb) subcritical mass of plutonium 89 millimeters (3.5 in) in diameter, manufactured during World War II by the United States nuclear weapon development effort, the Manhattan Project, as a fissile core for an early atomic bomb.

--On August 21, 1945, the plutonium core produced a burst of neutron radiation that led to physicist Harry Daghlian's death. Daghlian made a mistake while performing neutron reflector experiments on the core. He was working alone; a security guard, Private Robert J. Hemmerly, was seated at a desk 10 to 12 feet (3 to 4 m) away.[8] The core was placed within a stack of neutron-reflective tungsten carbide bricks and the addition of each brick moved the assembly closer to criticality. While attempting to stack another brick around the assembly, Daghlian accidentally dropped it onto the core and thereby caused the core to go well into supercriticality, a self-sustaining critical chain reaction. He quickly moved the brick off the assembly, but received a fatal dose of radiation. He died 25 days later from acute radiation poisoning.[9]

--On May 21, 1946,[11] physicist Louis Slotin and seven other personnel were in a Los Alamos laboratory conducting another experiment to verify the closeness of the core to criticality by the positioning of neutron reflectors.

--On the day of the accident, Slotin's screwdriver slipped outward a fraction of an inch while he was lowering the top reflector, allowing the reflector to fall into place around the core. Instantly, there was a flash of blue light and a wave of heat across Slotin's skin; the core had become supercritical, releasing an intense burst of neutron radiation estimated to have lasted about a half second.[6] Slotin quickly twisted his wrist, flipping the top shell to the floor. The heating of the core and shells stopped the criticality within seconds of its initiation,[16] while Slotin's reaction prevented a recurrence and ended the accident. The position of Slotin's body over the apparatus also shielded the others from much of the neutron radiation, but he received a lethal dose of 1,000 rad (10 Gy) neutron and 114 rad (1.14 Gy) gamma radiation in under a second and died nine days later from acute radiation poisoning.
There was no chance of the tabletop demon core exploding like a nuclear bomb or slowly releasing crazy amounts of energy like a nuclear reactor. Even a slight deformation of the sphere or movement of the reflector bricks and it would lose its criticality and the chain reaction would end.

For a nuclear bomb, like in any explosion, you need to concentrate and contain the super-critical (exponentially increasing chain reaction) mass long enough for enough of the 'fuel' to 'burn' before the device tears itself apart. The gun type device used on Hiroshima shot a large (sub-critical) hollow uranium bullet into a large (sub-critical) uranium peg to achieve super-critical mass sufficiently fast. The gun type design was simple but extremely inefficient and somewhat unreliable, as there was a mathematical chance of premature criticality and the thing fizzling out. The design was abandoned almost immediately when the implosion design they had been developing concurrently (used in the Trinity test and dropped on Nagasaki few days after Hiroshima) proved reliable enough. Given the materials and proper instructions, an average metal shop teacher could conceivably build a working gun type device.
The bomb contained 64 kg (141 lb) of enriched uranium. Most was enriched to 89% but some was only 50% uranium-235, for an average enrichment of 80%.[24] Less than a kilogram of uranium underwent nuclear fission, and of this mass only 0.7 g (0.025 oz) was transformed into several forms of energy, mostly kinetic energy, but also heat and radiation.[26]

--Although all of its components had been tested,[17] no full test of a gun-type nuclear weapon occurred before the Little Boy was dropped over Hiroshima. The only test explosion of a nuclear weapon concept had been of an implosion-type device employing plutonium as its fissile material, and took place on 16 July 1945 at the Trinity nuclear test. There were several reasons for not testing a Little Boy type of device. Primarily, there was little enriched uranium as compared with the relatively large amount of plutonium which, it was expected, could be produced by the Hanford Site reactors.[19] Additionally, the weapon design was simple enough that it was only deemed necessary to do laboratory tests with the gun-type assembly. Unlike the implosion design, which required sophisticated coordination of shaped explosive charges, the gun-type design was considered almost certain to work.[20]

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Since 1945 more than 2 000 nuclear bomb tests have been conducted, including more than 500 atmospheric tests. The tests have been observed by tens of thousands of people and recorded in all kinds of ways, including seismographic measurements, pressure and radiation detectors and satellites*. Countless physicists and engineers have worked on them. The observations and measurements are entirely consistent with general theoretical understanding of how physics work and the kind of measurable effects the blasts would produce. It is extremely difficult to imagine how the hundreds above ground nuclear tests could have been faked without some sort of unknown technology.

Claiming nuclear weapons are fake is like claiming airplanes are fake. A clear sign of lunacy and/or profound retardation.
The Anthropocene (/ˈænθrəpəˌsiːn, ænˈθrɒpə-/ AN-thrə-pə-seen, an-THROP-ə-)[1][2][3][failed verification] is a proposed geological epoch dating from the commencement of significant human impact on Earth's geology and ecosystems, including, but not limited to, anthropogenic climate change.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12]

...Various start dates for the Anthropocene have been proposed, ranging from the beginning of the Agricultural Revolution 12,000–15,000 years ago, to as recently as the 1960s. The ratification process is still ongoing, and thus a date remains to be decided definitively, but the peak in radionuclides fallout consequential to atomic bomb testing during the 1950s has been more favoured than others, locating a possible beginning of the Anthropocene to the detonation of the first atomic bomb in 1945 or the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in 1963.[16]
*Space is also real.
 

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Since 1945 more than 2 000 nuclear bomb tests have been conducted, including more than 500 atmospheric tests. The tests have been observed by tens of thousands of people and recorded in all kinds of ways

So they would only need less than 1% of all the Jews in the world to pull this one off. I'm still unconvinced.



On the real, claiming nukes are fake isn't even that good of a troll.
 

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Wasn't there some scientist a few years ago or claimed radiation and fall out is baloney and like ate plutonium on camera or something. Am i dreaming this?
 
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LingerLonger

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Wasn't there some scientist a few years ago or claimed radiation and fall out is baloney and like eight plutonium on camera or something. Am i dreaming this?
Galen Winsor. He proved that things like continent wide radioactive fallout is impossible and just scare tactics from environmentalists and idiots.
 

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I'm willing to believe that nukes are fake.

What would be the political ramifications though? Like Iraq has nukes. Israel isn't supposed to have them but apparently does and no one does anything.

If nukes aren't real and North Korea then gets them, how do world leaders react?

I understand the benefits of making up the holohoax. I don't get this one. What's the motive?
Pakistan and India have them and they hate each other, like really hate each other
 

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Wasn't there some scientist a few years ago or claimed radiation and fall out is baloney and like ate plutonium on camera or something. Am i dreaming this?
Galen Winsor.
You can eat anything in very low doses relatively safely.

I'm not going to watch that kooks video, but according to a transcript I found he eats a tiny bit of powdered rock (an unknown amount conaining an unknown amount of triuranium octoxide) he picked up in Colorado.

It is possible to also find a find US government toxicity report for plutonium including results from human experiments with a simple google search:
Gastrointestinal absorption was also measured in three adult male volunteers following ingestion of a
plutonium citrate solution along with food (Popplewell et al. 1994). Based on comparisons between
measured urinary plutonium excretion for 8 or 9 days postingestion and similar assessments following
intravenous injection of plutonium citrate 6 months later, calculated fractional absorption of ingested
plutonium ranged from 2x10-4 to 9x10-4.

This does not mean nuclear radiation and/or nuclear weapons are fake. This guy, who allegedly died from Leukemia, went so far overboard with his pro-nuclear-energy anti-regulation contrarianism that instead of simply correcting common misconceptions people have about nuclear energy, we now have decades later retards posting his extremely one sided presentations seemingly to prove radiation and nuclear weapons aren't even real. However he did think both nuclear weapons and nuclear radiation are real. No doubt he would also have agreed that nuclear radiation can be extremely dangerous if asked directly. From the transcript:
Now the weapon that was dropped on Hiroshima, Japan, on August 6, 1945,
was a U-235, a fully enriched U-235 weapon, where the material was separated
and purified in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. The one that was dropped August 9th on
Nagasaki was a plutonium weapon made at Hanford.
This is from a Los Alamos publication, early 2000's:

No humans have ever died from acute toxicity due to plutonium uptake.4 Nevertheless, lethal doses5 have been estimated from research on dogs, rats, and mice. Animal studies indicate that a few milligrams of plutonium per kilogram of tissue is a lethal dose. For example, the LD50(30) for dogs after intravenous injection of plutonium is about 0.32 milligram per kilogram of tissue. Assuming this animal dose also applies to humans, an LD50(30) by intravenous injection for an average human of 70 kilograms would be about 22 milligrams. By inhalation, the uptake would have to be about 4 times higher.

--Although dangerous, plutonium is not "the most toxic substance known to man." On a weight-by-weight basis, plutonium is less toxic than the unforgiving bacterial toxins that cause botulism, tetanus, and anthrax. And yet, plutonium's position is frighteningly high on the lethal ladder. A few millionths of a gram (or a few micrograms) distributed through the lungs, liver, or bones may increase the risk for developing cancer in those organs. Airborne, soluble chemical compounds of plutonium are considered so dangerous by the Department of Energy (DOE) that the maximum permissible occupational concentration in air is an infinitesimal 32 trillionths of a gram per cubic meter!


 

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Someone in this thread seems very invested in making people think stuff is real.

What does THAT make you think, HUH?
 
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