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Why is America choosing between two elderly men?

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We have to go back…back in time. To an ancient period known as “2016”.

Trump and Clinton bullied their way to the nominations. Trump won the Presidency. Come 2020 the Dems said “Alright lets not do that again.” The Dems options were slim pickings. Buttegieg, Klobuchar, Kamala, etc…ok, can’t go with those. So their viable candidates were Bernie, Biden, and Warren, three people old as sin. Couldn’t go with Warren because shes a woman and look how that turned out. Couldn’t pick Bernie because he’s a socialist jew. Biden it is!

So Biden wins 2020. He’s stubborn and doesn’t want to step down and has 0 real challengers anyway. Besides its basically a death sentence for the party in power for the sitting President to give up his seat. So Biden could be in a wheelchair and they’d still elect him. (Hell they ran FDR while he was dying…we have NEVER in the last 100 YEARS replaced a sitting President with a different candidate.)

The hope for the Republicans was that with Trump leaving office in disgrace and all of his criminal trials someone like Desantis, Ramaswamy, or Haley would pick up the reigns and have a GUARANTEED WIN against Biden. You can say they’re deepstate kikes but guess what? They’re not retirement age. Automatically people would vote for them over Biden.

But nope, again, Trump bullied his way to the nomination. So now we have two 80 year olds facing off against each other. Anyone who has a problem with this could have avoided it if we just picked SOMEONE besides Trump for 2024.
 

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I think Biden wins by an even larger margin than 2020. Trump is more disliked than ever and these criminal trials aren't going to help.

Republicans should have told him to fuck off and supported someone better.
I actually think the opposite. Biden will win but by a smaller electoral margin than 2020. This is a seriously rare event in Presidential history. An incumbent has always won more electoral votes than when he got in since FDR (who declined each time he got a new term). The only one to break this trend? Obama, who got elected with 365 votes then reelected with only 332.

Biden then needs to be compared to other Democratic Presidents. Carter was one term. Clinton won overwhelmingly in his reelection, and as just described Obama won, but by less. Now Biden is sure as fuck no Clinton and he’s somewhere between Carter and Obama in perception.

Ok ok, so now we have to do my strong suite…MATH. Biden was able to win 2020 by flipping key “swing” states that Trump had won in 2016: MI, WI, PA, NV, AZ, and GA. Of these states the ones he’s most likely to lose are Arizona and Georgia, considering they lean more Republican anyway and only went to Biden by a margin of less than 1%.

However that still leaves Biden to win MI, WI, PA, and NV. All lean heavily Democrat and have for the last 20 years, only bucking this trend to elect Trump in 2016. And in the scenario he wins with these states, Biden eeks out a 276 victory, 270 if we don’t count Nevada.
 

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FUCK YOU!!!! I didn’t mean “Replaced the President with a different candidate” ala replacing Ford with Carter, or replacing Carter with Reagan, or replacing HW with Clinton. I meant in the last 100 years the parties have never said “Yeah sitting President? We’re not giving you the nomination it’s going to some other guy”.

Just off the top of my head the last time this happened was maybe the 1800’s? Grant was supposed to run for a third term but the R’s went with Garfield instead.
 

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I think I’ll have to go with him, this is the best chance the third party has had since Biden / Trump are both shit.

It he selects Jesse Ventura as his running mate im all in with da Kennedy.

It's not Ventura, it's a chick. I didn't like the sound of it at first but I watched her nomination speech and she actually seems cool.
 

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Trump and Clinton bullied their way to the nominations.

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Yeah but thats tip of the iceberg shit. The DNC is supposed to send out shit like this, you want to win against the Republicans. And the Democratic candidates are supposed to go after each other, thats how they win.

Whats not acceptable, obviously, is one candidate literally colluding with the DNC to receive favorable media coverage and audience questions ahead of time. All the while the DNC chair is literally shitting all over the other candidate saying he “doesn’t know what the Democratic party represents” (Hilarious, because the people who supposedly did know chose fucking Clinton.)

I’m not even one of these “BERNIE COULDA WON” guys but it was obvious he was fucked over by the establishment and that didn’t help. I mean how bad do you have to fuck up for Obama to call you (the DNC chair) and basically FORCE you to resign over the way you coddled and manipulated shit to go in Clintons favor.
 

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The economy has to blow up at some point (because we're obviously not in a recession when everybody else is) and nobody wants to be in power when that happens. So the repubs let Trump get the nomination and the Dems let Biden run. Either old dude takes the fall for the next 4 years and we get a real candidate after that. I didn't know what to search but wasn't that a record for primary for Trump with everyone dropping out immediately like it was half hearted?

Kennedy is there to strip votes from left leaning people who don't want Trump.

But in the end it's all gay and everyone else made better points.
 
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It's embarrassing. Two geriatric feebs, one a doddering old man in his eighties, and the other an obese, gassy laughingstock. Neither party can produce a credible leader with any real vigor who isn't completely objectionable to "the other side". It says a lot about the caliber of people attracted to politics these days. The odds are that one or both of these jerks will be dead in four years, leaving us stuck with whichever pandering boob they choose as a running mate.
 

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It's embarrassing. Two geriatric feebs, one a doddering old man in his eighties, and the other an obese, gassy laughingstock. Neither party can produce a credible leader with any real vigor who isn't completely objectionable to "the other side". It says a lot about the caliber of people attracted to politics these days. The odds are that one or both of these jerks will be dead in four years, leaving us stuck with whichever pandering boob they choose as a running mate.

Or people get their shit together and vote 3rd party like adults.
 
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Yeah that’s not good, but it’s still better than the British prime minister whose actual name is Vishnu who talks like Apu.
Nice to admit this Judeau-schlepping is just a civil strife for you white people. "Ashkenaz" was the son of Japheth in the O.T. not Shem. "Ashkenaz" is also an old Hebrew name for Germany.

The (ashken)NAZIs were just a glorified Azov battalion, accelerating the return of jews to the Levant.
 
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