Why did the Sopranos have New Jersey mobsters in 2003 wearing suits every day?

[David A. Calton]

Some of the old school mobsters would sear suits and ties on yachts or attending a Yankees game. It was considered against the rules to appear in public or at a gathering not dressed properly. Then guys like Gotti started wearing flamboyant suits and bright colors and dressing like that one faggot NBA announcer.

Obviously you're grossly exaggerating but that still made me cackle.

 

[Mick_Mickerson]

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Obviously you're grossly exaggerating but that still made me cackle.

Gotti's ties were literally hand painted

 

[Chive Turkey]

He was a known Capo at that point and the son/nephew of two famous mobsters with a designated FBI team surveilling the family lol

None of the murders committed by Tony make any sense because of that lmao. They had the convenient excuse that terrorism kinda shifted the feds' focus away, but there's still so many examples in the show where he'd be caught dead to rights if there was just one half-interested cop tailing him.

 

[David A. Calton]

None of the murders committed by Tony make any sense because of that lmao. They had the convenient excuse that terrorism kinda shifted the feds' focus away, but there's still so many examples in the show where he'd be caught dead to rights if there was just one half-interested cop tailing him.

I dunno. A national DNA database wasn't established back then and NY/NJ wasn't a nanny surveillance state like it is now. Phones and cars didn't have GPS. Etc.
There are ways to explain around a lot of the dumb decisions they made. But a lot of the plot was simply written to be comedic, not true to life - like shooting that waiter behind the restaurant. It's not supposed to be real.

 

[Chive Turkey]

I dunno. A national DNA database wasn't established back then and NY/NJ wasn't a nanny surveillance state like it is now. Phones and cars didn't have GPS. Etc.

That's why I said tailing. A cop following him around in a car would've boned him on so many occasions.

• Tonester enters Ralph Cifaretto's house, Ralph seen opening the door
• Within an hour, Christuhfuh arrives and enters the residence.
• However many hours later, a clearly dishevelled Tony and Chris leave the home, loading their cars with a number of suspicious plastic bags.
• No sign of Ralph.

If they pulled him over and searched the cars, he would've been fucked. Even just a testimony or a couple pictures could've been damning circumstantial evidence in a later indictment.

 

[David A. Calton]

That's why I said tailing. A cop following him around in a car would've boned him on so many occasions.

• Tonester enters Ralph Cifaretto's house, Ralph seen opening the door
• Within an hour, Christuhfuh arrives and enters the residence.
• However many hours later, a clearly dishevelled Tony and Chris leave the home, loading their cars with a number of suspicious plastic bags.
• No sign of Ralph.

If they pulled him over and searched the cars, he would've been fucked. Even just a testimony or a couple pictures could've been damning circumstantial evidence in a later indictment.

No dude you're right. It's nonsense.
I've seen people explain this away by arguing that the local FBI office would've had tails on different people at different times as certain targets were suspected of different things, which also makes sense - the local FBI offices weren't and still aren't bottomless pits of funding, personnel, and time - but they still would've been caught. You're right.

For what it's worth, half the crew flipped by the end, Junior went to jail, Jonny Sac went to jail, most of the characters ended up either compromised, in prison, or dead. Tony was spared because of plot armor.

The idea the FBI will overlook more minor infractions to catch someone in a conspiracy murder plot under RICO gave the writers all kinds of excuses to let Tony off the hook.

 

[Mick_Mickerson]

No dude you're right. It's nonsense.
I've seen people explain this away by arguing that the local FBI office would've had tails on different people at different times as certain targets were suspected of different things, which also makes sense - the local FBI offices weren't and still aren't bottomless pits of funding, personnel, and time - but they still would've been caught. You're right.

For what it's worth, half the crew flipped by the end, Junior went to jail, Jonny Sac went to jail, most of the characters ended up either compromised, in prison, or dead. Tony was spared because of plot armor.

The idea the FBI will overlook more minor infractions to catch someone in a conspiracy murder plot under RICO gave the writers all kinds of excuses to let Tony off the hook.

The Five Families essentially stopped killing people even at that time because there was no way to not get caught. Last known sanctioned hit was 2013 but that was an outlier