Watched Clerks 3 (2023)

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I'll say it again: Seth Rogan introducing this cunt to weed took a potentially unmotivated but talented writer (who was a barely serviceable director) and made him a complete Pillock.

Later in life potheads are as weird as born again Christians.

 

[1950'sSpaceProgram]

Later in life potheads are as weird as born again Christians.

Reminder that famous "pot comic" Doug Benson, who made that shit his entire act and personality, didn't try weed until he was almost 30. Around the age most people stop.

 

[PogromStallone]

I really didn't like it. Only part I remember enjoying was the scene with Becky near the end. Everything with Elias was moronic. I really don't get why this had to be the story he wanted to end these character's journey. He had a completely different script a few years back that they did a live reading of that apparently was really good. But then he rewrote the entire thing after his heart attack. Clerks 2 had such a great ending, it was a big mistake to tryo to top it.

 

[Guest]

I'll say it again: Seth Rogan introducing this cunt to weed took a potentially unmotivated but talented writer (who was a barely serviceable director) and made him a complete Pillock.

Jay and Silent Bob Reboot was such indefensible shit put to celluloid, and merely existed by calling in every last favor he had left in the industry. I'll give him Clerks 2 because it was very funny, if aimless, and I'll even give him credit for going outside his comfort zone for Red State... Which still sucked.

But Clerks 3 is weird. I've watched it twice, and my opinion hasn't changed: decent idea, poor execution. It's not even a terrible concept, adapting his heart attack - Randall and Dante were always his avatars - but too much of it feels like a rehash and easy jokes that don't land quite right.

And yet Brian O'Halloran, who plays Dante, gets this one scene near the end where he calls out Randall on all his bullshit, specifically not living life, but just watching it go by and merely mocking it - it's such an accurate call out to a lot of my peers that I was amazed Smith still had that kind of reflection left in him. It's the one highlight to me, and it's a credit to O'Halloran, who's actually a decent actor.

A prime Smith, I believe, could've made a pretty good film out of this. As it stands, it's fan service with very few moments of brilliance, if you're a man of a certain age.

It was actually really strange to me that Rogen got him into weed. He had strong stoner energy from the start, he uses the force to get a weed bag into his hand in Mallrats.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

It was actually really strange to me that Rogen got him into weed. He had strong stoner energy from the start, he uses the force to get a weed bag into his hand in Mallrats.

Kevin said that himself and it was on the set of Zac & Miri then he started smoking while working during Cop Out because he didn’t get along with Bruce Willis.

 

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It was actually really strange to me that Rogen got him into weed. He had strong stoner energy from the start, he uses the force to get a weed bag into his hand in Mallrats.

No child, iT was noT weed, that was a VHS tape of Affleck's character fucking Trish the Dish (I hate that I remember that film so well).

Kevin said that himself and it was on the set of Zac & Miri then he started smoking while working during Cop Out because he didn’t get along with Bruce Willis.

The Willis thing, to this day, is still such a crybaby thing out of him. He worked with the guy as an actor on the fourth Die Hard and loved his fuck you energy on the set, but the moment he had to play boss man director and had that same BDE thrown at his own face, he withered like an utter nonce.

The funniest thing everyone forgets about the Cop Out thing: Bruce openly chastised Smith for not knowing the different types of lenses for a camera. I actually agree with Bruce on that! A good director knows those kinds of things, but Smith, who blocks every shot with less imagination than Ed Wood, never bothered to get better. So crybaby hits the weed to soothe his hurt feelings from John McClain.

 

[PogromStallone]

It was actually really strange to me that Rogen got him into weed. He had strong stoner energy from the start, he uses the force to get a weed bag into his hand in Mallrats.

Kevin said that himself and it was on the set of Zac & Miri then he started smoking while working during Cop Out because he didn’t get along with Bruce Willis.

That's not what happened. He smoked a couple of times with Rogen when they were making it but he didn't make it habit. Then way later when Zack & Miri opened it did way less at the box office than everyone thought it would and that morning he started smoking and didn't stop for over a decade. I used to be a fan of Smodcast, it was so fucking good before he got addicted to weed, and since it was recorded weekly you can hear exactly when it happened as he talks about it. If I remember correctly, the episode right after Zack and Miri opened starts with Mosier, co-host and producing partner, being shocked that Smith is currently high and they talk about the entire thing.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

No child, iT was noT weed, that was a VHS tape of Affleck's character fucking Trish the Dish (I hate that I remember that film so well).



The Willis thing, to this day, is still such a crybaby thing out of him. He worked with the guy as an actor on the fourth Die Hard and loved his fuck you energy on the set, but the moment he had to play boss man director and had that same BDE thrown at his own face, he withered like an utter nonce.

The funniest thing everyone forgets about the Cop Out thing: Bruce openly chastised Smith for not knowing the different types of lenses for a camera. I actually agree with Bruce on that! A good director knows those kinds of things, but Smith, who blocks every shot with less imagination than Ed Wood, never bothered to get better. So crybaby hits the weed to soothe his hurt feelings from John McClain.

I like Cop Out but mostly because of Tracy Morgan.

 

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That's not what happened. He smoked a couple of times with Rogen when they were making it but he didn't make it habit. Then way later when Zack & Miri opened it did way less at the box office than everyone thought it would and that morning he started smoking and didn't stop for over a decade. I used to be a fan of Smodcast, it was so fucking good before he got addicted to weed, and since it was recorded weekly you can hear exactly when it happened as he talks about it. If I remember correctly, the episode right after Zack and Miri opened starts with Mosier, co-host and producing partner, being shocked that Smith is currently high and they talk about the entire thing.

Smith's collapse of talent and spiral from surprisingly heartfelt raunch/serviceable mainstream comedy to borderline straight to video tripe actually makes me respect Guy Ritchie now.

Fucking cunt hasn't made a classic since Snatch, and even directed that shit Aladdin live action movie, but he churns out movies constantly (The Gentleman, Wrath of Man, Man from U.N.C.L.E.) and they're all watchable.

Christ, Operation Fortune: Ruse De Guerre is B movie schlock at it's finest, and one of my biggest guilty pleasures. Smith hasn't made a movie close to that in twenty years.

 

[Easily_Remembered]

That's not what happened. He smoked a couple of times with Rogen when they were making it but he didn't make it habit. Then way later when Zack & Miri opened it did way less at the box office than everyone thought it would and that morning he started smoking and didn't stop for over a decade. I used to be a fan of Smodcast, it was so fucking good before he got addicted to weed, and since it was recorded weekly you can hear exactly when it happened as he talks about it. If I remember correctly, the episode right after Zack and Miri opened starts with Mosier, co-host and producing partner, being shocked that Smith is currently high and they talk about the entire thing.

Smodcast used to be so good. Smith used to be so good at storytelling. I enjoyed his Evening With series many years ago.

Later in life potheads are as weird as born again Christians.

Smith is an atheist again after his dog died. Seriously.

 

[PogromStallone]

Smith's collapse of talent and spiral from surprisingly heartfelt raunch/serviceable mainstream comedy to borderline straight to video tripe actually makes me respect Guy Ritchie now.

Fucking cunt hasn't made a classic since Snatch, and even directed that shit Aladdin live action movie, but he churns out movies constantly (The Gentleman, Wrath of Man, Man from U.N.C.L.E.) and they're all watchable.

Christ, Operation Fortune: Ruse De Guerre is B movie schlock at it's finest, and one of my biggest guilty pleasures. Smith hasn't made a movie close to that in twenty years.

Did you like The Gentlemen show on Netflix? I thought it was fine.

 

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Did you like The Gentlemen show on Netflix? I thought it was fine.

Haven't watched it.

The movie was alright. As I said, Guy is pretty good. I haven't hated any of his movies since "Swept Away", closest was "Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows".

I will never, to the day I die, understand how a guy like Smith could piss away sincere story talent while Guy, who excels in his own wheelhouse but at least TRIES to branch out, has actually grown a bit. Did anyone here see "Guy Ritchie's The Covenant" with Gyllenhaal? That's a good fucking movie.

The best thing Smith ever wrote was "Superman Lives", and it wasn't even fucking made. Talk about wasted talent.

 

[Mr. Fuck]

the last thing his name was attached to that i didn't think was horrible was zach and miri and for all i know that could've aged like total shit.

That movie wasn't very good, but my girlfriend liked it and it made her horny.

 

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Haven't watched it.

The movie was alright. As I said, Guy is pretty good. I haven't hated any of his movies since "Swept Away", closest was "Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows".

I will never, to the day I die, understand how a guy like Smith could piss away sincere story talent while Guy, who excels in his own wheelhouse but at least TRIES to branch out, has actually grown a bit. Did anyone here see "Guy Ritchie's The Covenant" with Gyllenhaal? That's a good fucking movie.

The best thing Smith ever wrote was "Superman Lives", and it wasn't even fucking made. Talk about wasted talent.

The Covenant was a very good movie. Never felt like a Guy Ritchie movie.

 

[Chapel]

Is his Pig fucking ugly wife in one again and they all try to pretend she doesn’t look like Nana with tits?

 

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The Covenant was a very good movie. Never felt like a Guy Ritchie movie.

I showed it to Kool, Alicja and Steve. Kool is a massive Tarantino and Ritchie fan, and I did it as an experiment, with Steve and Alicja as the control.

Everyone liked it to varying degrees - oddly enough, Alicja really loved it - but Kool couldn't believe it was a Guy Ritchie movie. Said it was unlike anything he's done, and he's watched every movie he's made.

To me, that's a compliment. Modern directors have very distinct styles, usually on purpose - Raimi has zoom cuts, Coppola has slow pans, Scorsese has his long take wide shots, Spielberg has his Daddy Issues, Quentin has his fucking feet - and you can always bloody tell when it's their movie because of it.

So any artist that challenges themselves to be different and pulls it off, that's impressive. It's going against every innate fiber of comfort and instinct in their being; I can admit as a musician, it's scary as hell doing that.

Otherwise you can just be a fat Jersey stoner who can't tell the difference between camera lenses.

 

[Guest]

That's not what happened. He smoked a couple of times with Rogen when they were making it but he didn't make it habit. Then way later when Zack & Miri opened it did way less at the box office than everyone thought it would and that morning he started smoking and didn't stop for over a decade. I used to be a fan of Smodcast, it was so fucking good before he got addicted to weed, and since it was recorded weekly you can hear exactly when it happened as he talks about it. If I remember correctly, the episode right after Zack and Miri opened starts with Mosier, co-host and producing partner, being shocked that Smith is currently high and they talk about the entire thing.

he was so ahead of the curve with monetizing a parasocial relationship with his fans and with podcasting. His mental and emotional deterioration was truly sad. I would sometimes listen to him on Fat Man on Batman, he was nothing like the quick witted dude he once was.

 

[Easily_Remembered]

I showed it to Kool, Alicja and Steve. Kool is a massive Tarantino and Ritchie fan, and I did it as an experiment, with Steve and Alicja as the control.

Everyone liked it to varying degrees - oddly enough, Alicja really loved it - but Kool couldn't believe it was a Guy Ritchie movie. Said it was unlike anything he's done, and he's watched every movie he's made.

To me, that's a compliment. Modern directors have very distinct styles, usually on purpose - Raimi has zoom cuts, Coppola has slow pans, Scorsese has his long take wide shots, Spielberg has his Daddy Issues, Quentin has his fucking feet - and you can always bloody tell when it's their movie because of it.

So any artist that challenges themselves to be different and pulls it off, that's impressive. It's going against every innate fiber of comfort and instinct in their being; I can admit as a musician, it's scary as hell doing that.

Otherwise you can just be a fat Jersey stoner who can't tell the difference between camera lenses.

You're spot on. I love Guy Ritchie's "mob" movies, so that attracted me to his other movies. And he is absolutely willing to go out of his comfort zone and he is more flexible than Gumby in his style(s).

I would say that Swept Away and King Arthur are his only misfires.

 

[Safka's Enticer]

No but he does break his silence and speak

Jesus dude, spoilers

 

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You're spot on. I love Guy Ritchie's "mob" movies, so that attracted me to his other movies. And he is absolutely willing to go out of his comfort zone and he is more flexible than Gumby in his style(s).

I would say that Swept Away and King Arthur are his only misfires.

Eh, King Arthur was passable. He's a proud Brit and he's always been partial to characters of legend in that region, hence his Sherlock films.

Swept Away was a glamour project for his then wife, Madge. You don't do that shit with your wife. Ever.

Ever.