Fred still took some of the biggest beatings on the show. Cookie Puss and Fudgie the Whale beatings, the Rainbow Room, changing his name from Fred to Eric....but still going by Fred, his insane bachelor party meltdown, everyone calling him insane over attacking Carol Alt, and lots of other smaller beatings. And Howard would put callers on the air to bash Fred a lot as well.
Fred is the worst and harbors an insane amount of animosity towards Jackie. Apparently Fred “Faggot” Norris had a closed wedding on the beach with like 7 people and Gary hired a plumber who said he “was at Fred’s wedding” because he walked by on the public beach. This randomly comes up over a decade later and Fag starts freaking out about what “walking up” means. Hoo Hoo twisted the story for the bit but pussy boy only has the balls to lash out at Gary and Jackie. I’ll find the clip when I have time this weekend. My description doesn’t even do it justice because it’s absolutely embarrassing. He also once threatened to quit because they quickly looked through his book bag.
“Because Sal if you want to talk about wive’s physical appearances then we can go toe toe FUCKING toe. Because I’m real FUCKIN good at doing that.” Proceeds to not actually bring anything up. The more I listen to Stern, the more I appreciate Opie.
What was his anger towards Jackie about? Someone mentioned it was him asking for more money, or was it just because Jackie goofed on him. I'd agree Wiggy was the most thin skinned by Fred was a close second
Jackie & Fred were both writers for the show, and credited as such on the E! Show credits. They often worked & collaborated together, and Fred saw them as co-writers for the show.
Jackie goofed on him but later on it became about money. Jackie came back on after he left and Fred was fuming about Jackie asking for more money. They originally wanted to pay him 15k for the whole year to be on the E show. That’s insanity. He negotiated himself as head writer during a ridiculous salary argument and Fred held a grudge about that. Always sounded to me like Fred couldn’t be mad at Howard so he directed his anger towards Jackie. I’ve never heard the cookie puss one but the rainbow room fight is crazy. Jackie didn’t even bring it up because Fred asked him not to.
2 year old account and this is your first comment? Fuck you, Fred!
Wait, are you implying Hoo Hoo is full of shit?
You can blame Howard for that. Billy West always said he didn't stop chasing down voice acting work because Howard and Tom Chiusano had zero respect for anyone. Artie practically died to make Beer League, and is still feeling the effects of making that film, and seemed to have very little attachment to the show or Howard. The host of the show didn't even respect the actual show nor the audience. How many times has Howard turned his show into nothing but plugs for another gig he was doing?
Fred and Jackie went on a double date with their wives at the Rainbow Room. A restaurant with a revolving dance floor and a huge open seating area so no tables are private. Fred proceeds to get into a huge fight with his wife who storms out publicly. Fred apologizes to Jackie and leaves. Next Monday Fred gets into the office and tells Jackie "please don't bring that up on the air". Jackie agrees.
It was offered to, to quote Stuttering John the Tonight Show announcer, Niggerless Cage. And not Howard. Cage was offered the role of Scarecrow and Courtney Love was going to be Harleyquinn. But the movie was never made after the latest Batman film was a bomb.
That really showcased Fred's insanity. He completely lost his shit at the caller for wittnessing his tantrum and daring to speak about it. Talentless, thin-skinned, lazy-eyed, listener-marrying faggot.
I totally agree that the quality of the show began to dip right around PP the book, and really spiraled downhill while he was hyping that shitty movie. You have to wonder how it might have done if he hadn't built up such ridiculously lofty expectations for it. He tried to strike a balance between entertaining his core audience and being a "mainstream celebrity", and he failed at both. The show still had some memorable moments between 1997-2001, but that old magic was gone and it never returned. And Howie lost some credibility when he sheepishly tried to pretend the movie was actually a success, as we all had eyes, and we all knew it was bullshit.
