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Russia is evil and we need to begin world war 3 right now and stop all peace talks.

NoBacon

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Again, why should we care either way?

Are you learning disabled? we’ve given them an out and a deal that hands over the historical Russian areas (which they were massacring prior to this war) and he’s saying no and wants forever war and us to fund it all, and even send our troops to fight now he’s said. He’s delusional.
 

NoBacon

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That’s 6 hours of arguing about Russia since 7am. I’ve been working that whole time like a normal person

I can post on a forum on a browser and work too, it’s not very difficult Sue. I have a corporate manager role with my own office though, and you presumably do menial labor.
 
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Are you learning disabled? we’ve given them an out and a deal that hands over the historical Russian areas (which they were massacring prior to this war) and he’s saying no and wants forever war and us to fund it all, and even send our troops to fight now he’s said. He’s delusional.
Again, why is it our concern?
 

porquedealer

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Why not, they're no threat to us and not a concern.

It's a very big concern. See Cuba
Even if its the just the bill of having to have an enforced military border presence in the case of 'what if'.

Though in this instance it might actually help you secure the border better.
 

Steve Ramone

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We didn’t let them join NATO. My position is simple, I don’t advocate for wars I wouldn’t personally enlist in or ask my children to serve in. If you do, you’re a scumbag.
So why do you support giving Putin anything? He literally started this war by attacking Ukraine. Wouldn't dissuading other dictators from similar actions by supplying the opposing faction be worthwhile in possibly preventing future wars while also diminishing the military capacity of a historic and current enemy at the cost of zero American lives?
 

NoBacon

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So why do you support giving Putin anything? He literally started this war by attacking Ukraine. Wouldn't dissuading other dictators from similar actions by supplying the opposing faction be worthwhile in possibly preventing future wars while also diminishing the military capacity of a historic and current enemy at the cost of zero American lives?

Because I oppose war, you can’t claim to support Ukrainians while gleefully watching a million die and demanding more go with them.
 

Hairy Peckas

WHY WON’T THEY BEHAVE.
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Russia is a shithole outside of a couple major cities. I don’t understand how Ukraine wanting to improve themselves by getting away from the land of abortion, aids, and alcoholism justifies an invasion. If America became like Somalia wouldn’t Canada and Mexico be justified in not wanting to be associated with us?
 

Steve Ramone

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Because I oppose war, you can’t claim to support Ukrainians while gleefully watching a million die and demanding more go with them.
What a childlike response. All war bad no matter what (unless Russia starts it because trump)
 

Steve Ramone

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Russia didn't start it though. It's a direct result of the US and NATO not honoring the promise to not expand eastward after Russia agreed to leave East Germany.
Russia was scared of that because of ICBMs. MAD is dead, Russia lost, and having us military bases in Ukraine would be meaningless overkill in an actual conflict.
 

Jenna

be nice to Jenna
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So we unironically simping for Russia now that right-wing propaganda tells us to? The Tiktokers I trust to spoonfeed me opinions all say Russia is actually super based guys.
 

chocolatehellhole

I'd make your mum vaginally orgasm, dude
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Russia was scared of that because of ICBMs. MAD is dead, Russia lost, and having us military bases in Ukraine would be meaningless overkill in an actual conflict.
So missiles being right on Russia's border is completely meaningless? What are you talking about. Response time matters.

Bases in Ukraine would definitely matter and so does them having control of the Donbas region for obvious reasons.

They've been invaded on large scales in recent history, they're right to be wary and would be foolish to not respond and continue letting NATO get bigger and closer to / on their border.
 
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