Opie unironically says he can have a bigger podcast than Rogan

[Mick_Mickerson]

My argument is that’s because of internet. Your grandma is on the fucking internet. She didn’t have a satellite radio. He’s bigger because of accessibility. OnA ended right as YouTube and podcasts really started to take over. Your phone can access anything at any time. If you remember, XM couldn’t even get a fucking app together that worked. If you scale up, they’re around the same. Rogan is probably slightly bigger but not by much. The only “big” radio names were conservatives and stern and there were hundreds of stations that not everyone could listen to. OnA at their peak weren’t even on the west coast, until XM which they took a massive drop with.

I guess we're arguing about two different things. My point is just that Joe is way bigger now than they were.

I guess your point is that -- if they each started at same time in an alternate universe, they would be equally big?

 

[Gay Faggot.]

I guess we're arguing about two different things. My point is just that Joe is way bigger now than they were.

I guess your point is that -- if they each started at same time in an alternate universe, they would be equally big?

Yeah my point is if you add in accessibility, they’d probably be the same. Don’t forget OnA made National news multiple times. It’s just different. I guess in a sense, it’s a Jordan LeBron debate. Different times, I just think they’re about the same. He’s still nowhere near stern. Which is crazy. Fucking Jew (redundant).

 

[ChildSpitTake]

It's like Thomas Edison returning to the future, seeing a Power Plant and saying he can build a bigger one if he wanted to.

I would believe that more

 

[NikkisCrustyGusset]

Interesting conversation here guys, good to hear points from all sides and from people who were there when the show was actually on.
As a dirty Paddy Potato I of course didn't know or care about American radio. I heard of Stern first because of Private Parts. in late 90s there were poor quality clips&ompilations available all over the place.
It was through Stern I heard of OnA. This was a few years later and on some board there were clips off that cd they made. And I remember people talking about SexFor Sam. At the time I expected like porn noises broadcast... And people would talk about the girls and wiffle bats and shit..but also Stern had the international audience because re runs of his show would play on TV channels late at night..ALL THE TIME
I really think YouTube helped OnA reach audiences they couldn't ever imagine and I really got invested in them a few years ago, before Ant got fired but not that much more. They were easier to access but never seemed to me as huge as Stern. I reckon their audience is largely made up now of people who never heard them live.

Rogan had the whole YT thing early which gave him access to a much wider audience. The format of OnA bottlenecked that. Especially internationally. I knew Rogan from FF and an ex had a ton of his stand up and I got into it and THEN realised... Damn that's the guy on YT.

I think Rogan found the perfect storm of media elements to make him as huge as he was... He was known by regular folk from FF, A huge emerging and growing market of UFC helped him to get known by people who never would have before, the emerging podcast market was perfect for him...right when he was a hundred or two shows in... Then Smartphones became cheap, data becomes quicker and cheaper and all of a sudden you can listen to a whole episode no problem on your phone... And yeah... He got some interesting and esoteric guests on and talked about shit people just weren't talking about....
As much as he has sort of fallen off recently and the whole controversy... There are still a few hundred of his podcasts thst are EXCEPTIONALLY good.
He just was doing the right thing at the right time.

I think for the format OnA were they were stifled at times to reach a big audience because stations would suddenly stop syndication or the show was broken up into two parts for a while and there was no clear, definitive presence online, despite Foundry. If OnA uploaded a full videoed show on a dedicated YT channel at the time and did more than put up clips of Party getting her saggy tits caught in mousetraps or the Worm being choked out then they could have made a mark.

If Opie wanted to do a podcast now he would have to swallow his pride, put out a slew of well produced and interesting shows with all kinds of different, even controversial guests and just ignore the bullshit and pests and work hard for a year before he would break a few thousand views and people tuned in for other reasons than to fuck with him.

 

[Gay Faggot.]

Interesting conversation here guys, good to hear points from all sides and from people who were there when the show was actually on.
As a dirty Paddy Potato I of course didn't know or care about American radio. I heard of Stern first because of Private Parts. in late 90s there were poor quality clips&ompilations available all over the place.
It was through Stern I heard of OnA. This was a few years later and on some board there were clips off that cd they made. And I remember people talking about SexFor Sam. At the time I expected like porn noises broadcast... And people would talk about the girls and wiffle bats and shit..but also Stern had the international audience because re runs of his show would play on TV channels late at night..ALL THE TIME
I really think YouTube helped OnA reach audiences they couldn't ever imagine and I really got invested in them a few years ago, before Ant got fired but not that much more. They were easier to access but never seemed to me as huge as Stern. I reckon their audience is largely made up now of people who never heard them live.

Rogan had the whole YT thing early which gave him access to a much wider audience. The format of OnA bottlenecked that. Especially internationally. I knew Rogan from FF and an ex had a ton of his stand up and I got into it and THEN realised... Damn that's the guy on YT.

I think Rogan found the perfect storm of media elements to make him as huge as he was... He was known by regular folk from FF, A huge emerging and growing market of UFC helped him to get known by people who never would have before, the emerging podcast market was perfect for him...right when he was a hundred or two shows in... Then Smartphones became cheap, data becomes quicker and cheaper and all of a sudden you can listen to a whole episode no problem on your phone... And yeah... He got some interesting and esoteric guests on and talked about shit people just weren't talking about....
As much as he has sort of fallen off recently and the whole controversy... There are still a few hundred of his podcasts thst are EXCEPTIONALLY good.
He just was doing the right thing at the right time.

I think for the format OnA were they were stifled at times to reach a big audience because stations would suddenly stop syndication or the show was broken up into two parts for a while and there was no clear, definitive presence online, despite Foundry. If OnA uploaded a full videoed show on a dedicated YT channel at the time and did more than put up clips of Party getting her saggy tits caught in mousetraps or the Worm being choked out then they could have made a mark.

If Opie wanted to do a podcast now he would have to swallow his pride, put out a slew of well produced and interesting shows with all kinds of different, even controversial guests and just ignore the bullshit and pests and work hard for a year before he would break a few thousand views and people tuned in for other reasons than to fuck with him.

Coulda just said you agree with me…sniff.

 

[guest]

Literally forgot this dumb fuck even existed

 

[WhereWeAt]

If they all quit in July 2014 and hired an actual business manager, they would have a legit podcast network right now. It wouldn't be as big as Rogan, but it would be profitable and relevant.