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I Wanna See the Courthouse Movie! - Part 3

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How. How will he get away with it. Stop being vague. Nebulous retarded qanon dumb shit has nothing to do with this. Go through it specifically and explain the reasoning. You are basically saying you have a feeling. OK Based on what? the 5-10% debts that get collected. That's a good starting point but then you need to determine why they don't get collected and see if that situation applies here.

What Specifically is going to happen? Does he declare bankruptcy? I've explained what will happen. Does he try to sell? Can he sell it with a lien? Does he just stop paying and it forecloses? What happens then?


This is 1.7 thinking. What people do you know? How many? What were their circumstances? Did they post all their assets and spending on social media. Was it an actual judgment debt or just a regular debt? I'm betting you're talking about a few deadbeat friends you knew that owed like a couple grand in credit cards debts and maybe one of them had it go into a default judgment that they never responded to. In addition how many of them had a mortgage, two cars paid off? Did they live in a communal property state? What specific actions did the debt collectors try to do other than just calling and mailing letters? Did they go to court? Did they get served properly?

Explain exactly what the next 1-2 years look like. The next 5-10, 10-20. What specifically are the actions he can take to get away with it.
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I remember reading during my research about pro se filing motions to quash, dismiss, and proceed anonymously that 99+% of people wishing to remain anonymous are those who are being sued for piracy, usually of pornography. They're embarrassed pirates, not anonymous multi-sink free-speech champion Chads like us trying to conceal their identities from the forces of evil.

In fact, that's apparently how many porn companies actually make their profits. They subpoena ISPs and then subpoena users demanding some amount (usually $900 - $1200 dollars) of restitution. They employ "settlement farms" populated by attorneys who are aces at coming off extremely strong in the initial stages, but are weak when it comes to actually fighting things out in court. They offer court-approved channels of settling anonymously out of court, and the courts really just want these cases flushed out of the system as fast as possible -- say "court" again.

Reportedly, these cases are EXTREMELY easy to beat if you contest them at all, even pro se, but the litigants virtually never spend the money to pursue the case if the defendant won't immediately settle anyway. It's all about coming on strong and bullying people into settling in the opening stages. Other than the defendants usually being guilty, it's highly comparable to how the lying dirtbag cocksuckers at Minc Law were operating: they know that no one they're accusing is really guilty, but they try to overwhelm people with their shotgun pleadings of defamation, tortious interference, intentional infliction of emotional distress, civil conspiracy, invasion of privacy, etc., to just bully people into complying under the looming threat of legal bills and lunatics getting their personal info.

So, you have to remember that countless companies that make pornography, video games, software, etc., have won tens of thousands of uncontested judgments that they never intend to pursue. It's just the aftermath of an unsuccessful attempt to wrest an easy settlement out of someone. It works often enough that they keep doing it.

Some company with a settlement farm attorney trying to cookie-cutter bluff their way to a settlement against John Doe 459 of 1100 after the subpoenaed IP numbers come back is VERY dissimilar to Quasi's situation.

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It lives and dies with St. Quasi. The longer he keeps it going, the more likely Patrick’s day of reckoning becomes a reality.

The risk is going to be liquidity. Can Quasi keep paying the fees now to get his money later? It’s like the bank runs. everybody’s waiting to see if it’ll fail or if someone with 5 sinks will backstop it to avoid a systemic meltdown of the Forum.
 
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How. How will he get away with it. Stop being vague. Nebulous retarded qanon dumb shit has nothing to do with this. Go through it specifically and explain the reasoning. You are basically saying you have a feeling. OK Based on what? the 5-10% debts that get collected. That's a good starting point but then you need to determine why they don't get collected and see if that situation applies here.

What Specifically is going to happen? Does he declare bankruptcy? I've explained what will happen. Does he try to sell? Can he sell it with a lien? Does he just stop paying and it forecloses? What happens then?


This is 1.7 thinking. What people do you know? How many? What were their circumstances? Did they post all their assets and spending on social media. Was it an actual judgment debt or just a regular debt? I'm betting you're talking about a few deadbeat friends you knew that owed like a couple grand in credit cards debts and maybe one of them had it go into a default judgment that they never responded to. In addition how many of them had a mortgage, two cars paid off? Did they live in a communal property state? What specific actions did the debt collectors try to do other than just calling and mailing letters? Did they go to court? Did they get served properly?

Explain exactly what the next 1-2 years look like. The next 5-10, 10-20. What specifically are the actions he can take to get away with it.
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Of course I understand intellectually that there are real world consequences for this sort of thing. I can read and have read what you’ve said. I don’t think you’re lying. What is supposed to happen is rather clear, I have no real concrete reason to believe it won’t, so I have nothing to “explain” to you. Because I don’t know how he would get away with it. He shouldn’t. It shouldn’t even be possible.

The reasoning I have for being concerned is faggoty and I said as much.

But I know people who ignored debts and nothing ever happened to them. Ignored debts, collections, even warrants. And nothing ever happened.

How? I don’t know. But I’m talking decades of neglect from the court system. How? Why? I don’t know. Usually when something goes wrong it’s for reasons you didn’t see coming. It literally wasn’t supposed to happen that way and it did. Decades. Until they died. The cases could not have been more cut and dried. The judgment could not have been more clear. And yet, nothing happened.


OF COURSE it’s not supposed to happen that way. But the world is fucked up.

And I’m used to living in a world where people who know what is supposed to happen end up stunned when it doesn’t.
 
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@admin shitting on fucking despondent retards on Quasi's behalf like Kali on her period.

@DickensCoffee_mybb I don't mean to offend but I hope you contract AIDS from Samuel Delaney's assistant Bill as he sneaks into your room at night and rubs Delaney's used underwear on your delicious DSLs.
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I already did. Just bringing it up is traumatic, that’s not very nice of you.
 
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DickensCoffee_mybb said:
Of course I understand intellectually that there are real world consequences for this sort of thing. I can read and have read what you’ve said. I don’t think you’re lying. What is supposed to happen is rather clear, I have no real concrete reason to believe it won’t, so I have nothing to “explain” to you. Because I don’t know how he would get away with it. He shouldn’t. It shouldn’t even be possible.

The reasoning I have for being concerned is faggoty and I said as much.

But I know people who ignored debts and nothing ever happened to them. Ignored debts, collections, even warrants. And nothing ever happened.

How? I don’t know. But I’m talking decades of neglect from the court system. How? Why? I don’t know. Usually when something goes wrong it’s for reasons you didn’t see coming. It literally wasn’t supposed to happen that way and it did. Decades. Until they died. The cases could not have been more cut and dried. The judgment could not have been more clear. And yet, nothing happened.


OF COURSE it’s not supposed to happen that way. But the world is fucked up.

And I’m used to living in a world where people who know what is supposed to happen end up stunned when it doesn’t.
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STOP INVADING MY SAFE SPACE. Reported for hate speech. Admin pls delete
 
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DickensCoffee_mybb said:
Of course I understand intellectually that there are real world consequences for this sort of thing. I can read and have read what you’ve said. I don’t think you’re lying. What is supposed to happen is rather clear, I have no real concrete reason to believe it won’t, so I have nothing to “explain” to you. Because I don’t know how he would get away with it. He shouldn’t. It shouldn’t even be possible.

The reasoning I have for being concerned is faggoty and I said as much.

But I know people who ignored debts and nothing ever happened to them. Ignored debts, collections, even warrants. And nothing ever happened.

How? I don’t know. But I’m talking decades of neglect from the court system. How? Why? I don’t know. Usually when something goes wrong it’s for reasons you didn’t see coming. It literally wasn’t supposed to happen that way and it did. Decades. Until they died. The cases could not have been more cut and dried. The judgment could not have been more clear. And yet, nothing happened.


OF COURSE it’s not supposed to happen that way. But the world is fucked up.

And I’m used to living in a world where people who know what is supposed to happen end up stunned when it doesn’t.
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I think the difference is these deadbeats you’re talking about probably owed money to big companies like banks and hospitals who decided it’s not worth it to go after relatively small amounts. It’s just business.

But Quaso is in a different situation since he seems to want to follow through just on principle or for the lulz even to his financial detriment.

So if Lynn doesn’t bail them out I think he’ll basically put them in the street with nothing and I’m here for it.
 
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It lives and dies with St. Quasi. The longer he keeps it going, the more likely Patrick’s day of reckoning becomes a reality.

The risk is going to be liquidity. Can Quasi keep paying the fees now to get his money later? It’s like the bank runs. everybody’s waiting to see if it’ll fail or if someone with 5 sinks will backstop it to avoid a systemic meltdown of the Forum.
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Quasi knows he can sell some of the debt to me at anytime. I'd love nothing more than to have a piece of this action.
 
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I think the difference is these deadbeats you’re talking about probably owed money to big companies like banks and hospitals who decided it’s not worth it to go after relatively small amounts. It’s just business.

But Quaso is in a different situation since he seems to want to follow through just on principle or for the lulz even to his financial detriment.

So if Lynn doesn’t bail them out I think he’ll basically put them in the street with nothing and I’m here for it.
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I think at least one of them it was some kind of dispute with a neighbor. But I was a lot younger so I’m not entirely sure. Like I said, I completely believe that it should go the way that it should go. Everyone has made a very solid and even airtight argument as to why it should work out.

Should.
 
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