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He totally swatted himself and his own parents

DominusOdium

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I think she buys them.
In my opinion, watching their body language, eye movements, etc... she comes off as a very insecure person who is completely wrapped up in his web of horseshit and is either covering for some things because he's convinced it's for the greater good and a bigger plan or she's delusional and thinks everything he's saying is true. If you've seen women covering for abusive husbands who hit them, or hit the kids or have drugs.... they look and talk alot like she does. Her eyes dart a ton. She fidgets and stammers a lot. She actually has semi-appropriate emotional reactions, like looking sad when Patrick mentions going to jail, even while he's smiling and acting defiant. She seems incredulous at things, whereas Fats has a smirk on his face because this is his big moment. She does a lot of "Can you believe this?" and he does a lot of .... being Patrick.

Maybe she just suspects he's lying but can't believe it?

I don't know. I know the popular opinion is that she's completely in on it and 100% as bad as him, but I don't think so. I've seen women get completely ensnared with narcissistic compulsive liars before and the more of these videos the more I read her as trying to remember the truth he's told her, recite the things he's repeated ad nauseum and overlook details that don't make sense or align with the reality of the situation.

I'm probably too nice and she's behind it all. WTF do I know.
 

JoeBrotheChildSpitGuzzler

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if the interviewers just asked "how do you know that?" their narrative collapses

how do they know the payment was made under Patrick's name? how do they know someone set up dating profiles under Nikki's? how do they know the furniture sent to them was a troll and not a shipping mistake? how do they know the gas outage was a troll?

these days gas inspectors have a flashlight-sized tool to detect leaks, did it beep positive? they never say, they just whine it was cut off. Gas companies cut off homes every day, but it happens to them and it's a sinister conspiracy?
I don't approve of swatting but I fervently wish oat would skip in a puddle of AIDS and gash his forehead. Fucking worthless fat cunt
 
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In my opinion, watching their body language, eye movements, etc... she comes off as a very insecure person who is completely wrapped up in his web of horseshit and is either covering for some things because he's convinced it's for the greater good and a bigger plan or she's delusional and thinks everything he's saying is true. If you've seen women covering for abusive husbands who hit them, or hit the kids or have drugs.... they look and talk alot like she does. Her eyes dart a ton. She fidgets and stammers a lot. She actually has semi-appropriate emotional reactions, like looking sad when Patrick mentions going to jail, even while he's smiling and acting defiant. She seems incredulous at things, whereas Fats has a smirk on his face because this is his big moment. She does a lot of "Can you believe this?" and he does a lot of .... being Patrick.

Maybe she just suspects he's lying but can't believe it?

I don't know. I know the popular opinion is that she's completely in on it and 100% as bad as him, but I don't think so. I've seen women get completely ensnared with narcissistic compulsive liars before and the more of these videos the more I read her as trying to remember the truth he's told her, recite the things he's repeated ad nauseum and overlook details that don't make sense or align with the reality of the situation.

I'm probably too nice and she's behind it all. WTF do I know.
She has to know the motorcycle vandalism is bullshit. There's no way she can't recognize her husband on a security tape, and he was wearing one of her jackets while he did it. The reality is that she has way more to lose than he does once the collectors start raping them. They have no equity in their house, the rustang is exempt (if I'm not mistaken), so the only thing of Patrick's Quasi can take is his motor scooter. Niki on the other hand has her entire business that she's spent the last 10+ years building, and absolutely none of that is exempt. Her only hope is to rent out the other half of the hovel and hope that Quasi will accept a payment plan like that. Otherwise, her business can be seized and sold off to repay the debt, and Niki will have lost everything.
 

JoeCumiawearsDIAPERS

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In my opinion, watching their body language, eye movements, etc... she comes off as a very insecure person who is completely wrapped up in his web of horseshit and is either covering for some things because he's convinced it's for the greater good and a bigger plan or she's delusional and thinks everything he's saying is true. If you've seen women covering for abusive husbands who hit them, or hit the kids or have drugs.... they look and talk alot like she does. Her eyes dart a ton. She fidgets and stammers a lot. She actually has semi-appropriate emotional reactions, like looking sad when Patrick mentions going to jail, even while he's smiling and acting defiant. She seems incredulous at things, whereas Fats has a smirk on his face because this is his big moment. She does a lot of "Can you believe this?" and he does a lot of .... being Patrick.

Maybe she just suspects he's lying but can't believe it?

I don't know. I know the popular opinion is that she's completely in on it and 100% as bad as him, but I don't think so. I've seen women get completely ensnared with narcissistic compulsive liars before and the more of these videos the more I read her as trying to remember the truth he's told her, recite the things he's repeated ad nauseum and overlook details that don't make sense or align with the reality of the situation.

I'm probably too nice and she's behind it all. WTF do I know.
I think there’s merit to what you’re saying. It also doesn’t need to completely one or the other, she can be in on it to a degree but also know there’s some pretty big exaggerations and is too scared to do something about it. That happens a lot.

Many have said it before but Patrick went for her because of he insecurities and is now got her caught up in his foolishness. She had a bankruptcy under her belt when she was in her 20s. I assume that’s humbling.

You can tell she’s angry at the whole situation and being an overly emotional woman, whereas Pat looks like he’s excited to be interviewed. Maybe she’ll finally get some peace and quiet when he’s sitting in county for a few days.
 

HotDogJoe

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OK. that's a great lead for the police. Crypto isn't really anonymous, its psuedo-anonymous That can be traced. Hopefully the police find the person(s) responsible.

Blows my mind that nobody has actually bothered to look into this properly. It's not like there's nothing to go on. Pig has literally said that crypto wallet was used to pay for the swattings. Just track where the payments came from.

DO THE MINIMUM OF YOUR JOBS!! :pig1
 

Patrick O'Neal

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I'm really not sure where Niki lies on the Machiavelli vs innocent victim litmus paper. But, I do know that women are better at lying than men (more practice).

Compare. :unsure:

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DominusOdium

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She has to know the motorcycle vandalism is bullshit. There's no way she can't recognize her husband on a security tape, and he was wearing one of her jackets while he did it. The reality is that she has way more to lose than he does once the collectors start raping them. They have no equity in their house, the rustang is exempt (if I'm not mistaken), so the only thing of Patrick's Quasi can take is his motor scooter. Niki on the other hand has her entire business that she's spent the last 10+ years building, and absolutely none of that is exempt. Her only hope is to rent out the other half of the hovel and hope that Quasi will accept a payment plan like that. Otherwise, her business can be seized and sold off to repay the debt, and Niki will have lost everything.
Totally agree on the motorcycle thing. If she doesn't know that is obviously him and his handwriting, she's clinically retarded or has a slow gas leak. That's what I mean when I say she's probably covering or lying about some things for the overall good, or so Patrick tells her. It's not hard to imagine him telling her that he needed to do that to get more attention on the acTual crimes they're committing every day against us.

And don't underestimate the power of a desperate middle aged woman to handwave and make excuses for the obvious in order to keep a man who has tricked her into believing he's all she's got and is a big deal celebrity.

And you're right about her being the primary loser on all fronts. Fat has nothing and his reputation was shit a long time ago. He's sinking her ship because she's been convinced he can steer and knows what he's doing.
 

DominusOdium

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I think there’s merit to what you’re saying. It also doesn’t need to completely one or the other, she can be in on it to a degree but also know there’s some pretty big exaggerations and is too scared to do something about it. That happens a lot.

Many have said it before but Patrick went for her because of he insecurities and is now got her caught up in his foolishness. She had a bankruptcy under her belt when she was in her 20s. I assume that’s humbling.

You can tell she’s angry at the whole situation and being an overly emotional woman, whereas Pat looks like he’s excited to be interviewed. Maybe she’ll finally get some peace and quiet when he’s sitting in county for a few days.
I think there's probably some stuff she's aware of that is total bullshit and is ignoring to keep her "man" and make sense of the situation. Patrick might write that he's a virgin on his own bike to get us some police attention with physical evidence, but surely he's not swaTTing us and putting me in harms way just to be on TV and avoid the debt he incurred after telling me we would win in court, right?

I'm not unsympathetic to somebody who is in a psychologically fucked up situation and is stuck in it with a narcissist who keeps telling her he's got it under control, is blameless and pure and is going to win in the end. He's clearly lying and lies endlessly but we're outside looking in.
 
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Blows my mind that nobody has actually bothered to look into this properly. It's not like there's nothing to go on. Pig has literally said that crypto wallet was used to pay for the swattings. Just track where the payments came from.

DO THE MINIMUM OF YOUR JOBS!! :pig1
It would have gone like this:

Pat's bank/credit card -> Bitcoin -> Bitcoin/Monero exchanger -> Swatter's wallet

Monero cannot be tracked by traditional means. The whole draw of it is that it is completely anonymous. Though some speculate that the Feds have found a way to either track it or have some ML programs that can say with a high degree of certainty which wallets belong to which kingpins, etc. To further complicate things, Torswats opened up a new wallet for each customer. No idea how he's cashing out, but assuming he's telling the truth, the cawps have Pat buying bitcoin and sending it through a bitcoin/monero exchanger just before each swatting, along with Telegram logs/messages of Torswats saying that that it how he was buying them. Extremely damning on its own, but with the statute of limitations, it might be worthwhile for them to sit on that in hopes that Torswats gets busted before the statute of limitations passes.
 

FurBurger

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I'm not unsympathetic to somebody who is in a psychologically fucked up situation and is stuck in it with a narcissist who keeps telling her he's got it under control, is blameless and pure and is going to win in the end. He's clearly lying and lies endlessly but we're outside looking in.
Sir, this is a violent alt-right MAGA Nazi supremacist website; I do not expect to be confronted with that sort of empathy and decency when I come here.
 
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