FAGGOT (Francis Ford Coppola)

[TorpidSloth]

Yeah, that kind of sums it up really - the original theatrical cut of Apocalypse is perfect (not a fan of redux, though I thought it was interesting).

This is a guy who made the Godfather, the Conversation, GF2 and then Apocalypse Now. Most directors can't claim to have made one masterpiece. Coppola made four in a row. The Outsiders, Rumble Fish, Peggy Sue and Dracula have their moments. The Rainmaker is watchable, same for GF 3. But he never made a great film again. Like I said though. Most directors have never made even one.

 

[IanCurtis]

This is a guy who made the Godfather, the Conversation, GF2 and then Apocalypse Now. Most directors can't claim to have made one masterpiece. Coppola made four in a row. The Outsiders, Rumble Fish, Peggy Sue and Dracula have their moments. The Rainmaker is watchable, same for GF 3. But he never made a great film again. Like I said though. Most directors have never made even one.

Yeah, of course, even his lesser (though still ambitious and large production) films - Cotton Club, One from the Heart, Tucker - are worth watching or are interesting - I only noticed this week The Rain People got a bluray release last year, so that's on my to see list. I liked the more creative filmmaking in Dracula (didn't love the casting), too bad Ryder had to drop out of GF 3 (stuck filming Mermaids I think), Peggy Sue is a perfectly decent film and Outsiders/Rumble Fish seem to have cult followings today. Overall he's had a better (and longer) career than most Directors ever have.

 

[TorpidSloth]

Yeah, of course, even his lesser (though still ambitious and large production) films - Cotton Club, One from the Heart, Tucker - are worth watching or are interesting

I actually haven't seen any of those. Which one is the best?

 

[BUBBLER]

This is what happens when you give wops money

 

[IanCurtis]

I actually haven't seen any of those. Which one is the best?

Tucker - it's pretty straight forward, it's always been well regarded, hardly a masterpiece but a solid movie.

Cotton Club - I'm pretty sure he wasn't the first director, but either way it's a film butchered by the studio - some people regard it as a 'lost' masterpiece, I don't think that's the case, it's impressive, all over the place - has a cast of thousands - definitely worth seeing. I think there is an extended cut out there but I've never seen it.

I believe One from the Heart (an ambitious musical) is the one that really financially screwed Coppola (and was still paying off debts on it up to Dracula), it's more for Coppola die-hards - an interesting and creative film, sadly I've never seen a decent transfer (it was dumped on DVD in pan and scan from memory - really shit transfer which, given the excellent cinematography, is an obvious fuck-you from the studio), it made no money and was critically shit on - long overdue for at least a decent presentation on disc etc. I know Coppola was off his head on coke at times during this because Scorcese would visit him in his silverfish trailer and he'd be in there wigged out, listening to punk records (Scorcese had been on coke himself in the lead up to Raging Bull).

I'd recommend reading the wikipedia entries on these before going into them, both as context for the making of them (which will probably explain why the latter two ended up being so problematic and impactful on Coppola's career) and just to test the waters in terms of interest.

 

[LiberalPussy]

Yeah, of course, even his lesser (though still ambitious and large production) films - Cotton Club, One from the Heart, Tucker - are worth watching or are interesting - I only noticed this week The Rain People got a bluray release last year, so that's on my to see list. I liked the more creative filmmaking in Dracula (didn't love the casting), too bad Ryder had to drop out of GF 3 (stuck filming Mermaids I think), Peggy Sue is a perfectly decent film and Outsiders/Rumble Fish seem to have cult followings today. Overall he's had a better (and longer) career than most Directors ever have.

Do you really want that oven dodger in a Godfather movie?

 

[RedHeadpw2]

I liked the more creative filmmaking in Dracula (didn't love the casting)...

You don't think teleporting Ted Theodore Logan into Victorian London was a good idea? Nyehehehehe...

 

[TorpidSloth]

You don't think teleporting Ted Theodore Logan into Victorian London was a good idea? Nyehehehehe...

Up there with Dick Van Dyke as worst British accent by an American actor

 

[IanCurtis]

You don't think teleporting Ted Theodore Logan into Victorian London was a good idea? Nyehehehehe...

Didn't mind him actually, it was more the mismatch between Ryder (her acting got worse and worse in the 90s due I guess to her limited range) and Dracula guy (as much Coppola's fault for casting him) cause he just didn't have the charisma the character needs (he's a fine actor just not a 'star' actor). I really loved OTT Anthony Hopkins - he seemed to be one of the few leads who understood the whole thing was meant to be OTT camp (he's great in the trailer too).

 

[Queefer Sutherland]

To be fair, where do you go after Apocalypse Now, probably the greatest film ever made?

A spinoff with Jean-Claude Van Damme as a Legionnaire.

 

[TorpidSloth]

A spinoff with Jean-Claude Van Damme as a Legionnaire.


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It's got nothing on Timecop

 

[Africa.com]

Second time I've mentioned being a Dirctors Commentary Chad this week... my theory about why Coppola never reached the highest highs again based on the GF and Apocalypse commentaries: nigga got humbled. Not even just the money he lost, everybody hated his guts (probably rightfully he was so up his own ass), his peculiar genius was tied into his wop tendencies toward being a domineering cunt.

Edit: Scorses has put out stinkers but is still beloved because he isn't so singular in the creative process. He lives and dies with his collaborators whereas Coppola was the Auteur. Kubrick was also kinda a miserable cunt and half of his collaborators hated his guts but he never made a terrible film.

 

[Mick_Mickerson]

Up there with Dick Van Dyke as worst British accent by an American actor

Keanu's surfer bro posh accent in Dracula must sound odd to British ears

 

[TheGhostOfAbeVigoda]

Type out "The Godfather" you fucking queers. GF, GF2. Fuck off. I was in the fucking thing and I call it The Godfather.

 

[TheGhostOfAbeVigoda]

Keanu's surfer bro posh accent in Dracula must sound odd to British ears

Keanu Reeves fucking sucks. The only movies he was ever actually good in are the Bill and Ted ones, River's Edge and Point Break. He was a great young California fuckface and that's it.

P.S. I fucking LOVE River's Edge and I don't even really know why.

 

[Turk February]

Critics were equally divided on Apocalypse Now on release. I ain't saying shit until I see this thing.

 

[TorpidSloth]

Keanu's surfer bro posh accent in Dracula must sound odd to British ears

To American ones too I imagine

 

[TorpidSloth]

Keanu Reeves fucking sucks. The only movies he was ever actually good in are the Bill and Ted ones, River's Edge and Point Break. He was a great young California fuckface and that's it.

P.S. I fucking LOVE River's Edge and I don't even really know why.

And isn't he actually Canadian

 

[TheGhostOfAbeVigoda]

And isn't he actually Canadian

Yeah he's from the faggot city of Toronto.

I went to the Dawn Valley mall in Toronto a few weeks ago and I almost punched some paki in the face. I was with my dad who can't keep his balance anymore and refused to take one of the wheelchairs so I had to keep catching him. People just walk right into you. They get right directly in your way and then act like you're in their way. I got to the point that I wasn't going to keep sidestepping these cunts so I just started walking through them. One little brown fuck came back and got in front of me and tried to do like a nose to nose UFC weigh in staredown. My dad just started laughing and I was like "I'll fucking KILL you" and he fucked off without a word. I just barely stopped myself from calling him shitskin.

 

[Turk February]

Yeah he's from the faggot city of Toronto.

Sorry to correct you but after the 2019 Compromise, Toronto is no longer referred to as "faggot city" in official documents and correspondences and "the six" is considered the correct nickname.