Drug degenerates: Soma?

[guest]

Calling all degens. @Harry Kilmer @LockedHDD__Pot @FuckedByBabyFez, etc

Soma wortha damn? Are they worth $2 a pop for 500mg, even if just for opiate/benzo withdrawl? This vendor has Lyrica at the same price and i stock up on those when i can if needed for withdrawals too. The clonidine is just too damn expensive to justify but that’s always awesome to have on hand.

How much do you do before you get to the point that you'll experience withdrawal?

 

[Phish]

How much do you do before you get to the point that you'll experience withdrawal?

Benzos for a few months. Depends the dose rly. I try to keep my doses really low so i can still work through withdrawal. Something like equivalent to a 2mg xanax bar and 30mg oxy spread throughout the day. Before I know it I need it to get out of bed. Its a cyclical problem in my life but im dealing with it best i know how for now. I got kids. No time for this bullshit. (Benzos are pennies on the doller cheap).

 

[satanssockpuppet]

I will say, as someone who is in chronic medical related (real) pain. I couldn’t handle opiates. I would begin withdrawals within an hour and it was as bad as the actual pain! I’ve been experimenting with kratom for a few months and it fucking rules.

I used kratom to kick a fairly substantial hydrocodone/oxycodone habit. I was up to 80-100mg a day and it was just untenable, I wasn't even feeling them at all anymore. So I tapered and quit and it was pretty awful, with the shitting, yawning, insomnia and everything smelling like ass. I tried poppy seed tea, but that shit is no help, then I tried Imodium and that was useless. So I figured I had nothing to lose with giving kratom a shot, and I was honestly amazed at how well it worked. It's way, way cheaper than pills, too. The downsides are dealing with ingesting that vile powder, stomach aches, especially at first, but all in all it worked like a charm for me. I still take it 2-3 times a day and that morning kratom buzz is just as good as pills IMO.

 

[guest]

I used kratom to kick a fairly substantial hydrocodone/oxycodone habit. I was up to 80-100mg a day and it was just untenable, I wasn't even feeling them at all anymore. So I tapered and quit and it was pretty awful, with the shitting, yawning, insomnia and everything smelling like ass. I tried poppy seed tea, but that shit is no help, then I tried Imodium and that was useless. So I figured I had nothing to lose with giving kratom a shot, and I was honestly amazed at how well it worked. It's way, way cheaper than pills, too. The downsides are dealing with ingesting that vile powder, stomach aches, especially at first, but all in all it worked like a charm for me. I still take it 2-3 times a day and that morning kratom buzz is just as good as pills IMO.

I take 2 capsules of green maingda in the morning with my "Strongest coffee in the world". I don't exactly get "High" , but it definitely gives my mood a boast with a dash of extra energy.

 

[satanssockpuppet]

I take 2 capsules of green maingda in the morning with my "Strongest coffee in the world". I don't exactly get "High" , but it definitely gives my mood a boast with a dash of extra energy.

I'm a notoriously poor waker-upper, always have been. I gulp down three grams of kratom and take 100mg of caffeine, and an hour later I'm almost functional. Then I eat a couple more grams in the mid-afternoon, then after dinner. I never touch it within 2-3 hours of going to bed, though, as it causes really weird and oddly exhausting dreams. And I hate that.

 

[guest]

I finally was able to stop using oxy/heroin using kratom. It took 1 million kick attempts and I was never able to feel “normal” no matter how much time went by. First time I tried kratom during one of those post withdrawal periods, I felt completely normal again for once and never went back. I just kinda switched addictions though I use about a kilo of kratom every 3-4 weeks. I don’t get any “feeling” from it (never did to begin with) but I feel normal and it’s cheap and maintainable so I have no plans to ever stop.

It’ll actually be 5 years off opiates either this week or next

 

[Brooke Shields]

whas some a dem otha named after dystopian drugs we got?

 

[RoTheHo69]

I had a bad kratom problem but I kicked it with carfentanil.

 

[Phish]

I finally was able to stop using oxy/heroin using kratom. It took 1 million kick attempts and I was never able to feel “normal” no matter how much time went by. First time I tried kratom during one of those post withdrawal periods, I felt completely normal again for once and never went back. I just kinda switched addictions though I use about a kilo of kratom every 3-4 weeks. I don’t get any “feeling” from it (never did to begin with) but I feel normal and it’s cheap and maintainable so I have no plans to ever stop.

It’ll actually be 5 years off opiates either this week or next

Where do you buy yours and what strain is best for opiates/benzo withdrawl? Tagging @LockedHDD__Pot in this as well

 

[bantadant]

Where do you buy yours and what strain is best for opiates/benzo withdrawl? Tagging @LockedHDD__Pot in this as well

Most vape shops usually carry it. I think the green kratom is supposed to closer mimic an opioid. It tastes fucking god awful though. Best way I've found is to mix it in with some unsweetened iced tea and water and that helps mask the flavor.

 

[Phish]

Most vape shops usually carry it. I think the green kratom is supposed to closer mimic an opioid. It tastes fucking god awful though. Best way I've found is to mix it in with some unsweetened iced tea and water and that helps mask the flavor.

Yea ive tried a bunch if diff kinds through the years. It tastes like dried leaves and dirt. Ive tried the MIT45 brand extract and it was actually kinda strong. Made me a bit nauseous. Ive heard those MIT45 extracts have a brutal withdrawl. But most people I ask say to get a Red strain for opiates. In going to be making the jump from roughly 17 yrs of opiate addiction to kratom. Im down to about 9-12mg of methadone. Want to get to about 5 and try to make the switch but i know some brands are complete shit and some are legit and good. Looking for a solid site that someone actively uses to start scoping it out. All the headshops around heres prices seem wayy too high when i look online for a kilo.

 

[guest]

Where do you buy yours and what strain is best for opiates/benzo withdrawl? Tagging @LockedHDD__Pot in this as well

I buy it from Yokratom.com, they advertise on LoS that’s how I found them ha

I buy a 2 kilos at a time 60 bucks apiece. I’ve been using them for about 3 years I think now, no problems at all. As for strain, none of them felt different from each other to me but the one I buy from yokratom is called “trainwreck.” I think it’s just a lil but of every different strain put together. I never felt anything per se from kratom as in a high. But you know that period after withdrawals where you just never feel regular again? That would always send me back to using. But once I tried kratom at that point, I felt completely normal again. I basically use it as a suboxone esque replacement basically like a safety blanket. I never went back. I don’t get cravings, it doesn’t show up on my jobs drug tests, and it’s cheap enough where I’d rather just stay on it than to risk going back to real opiates by getting off and winding up back on dope. Kratom probably saved my life as gay as that sounds haha