Does Anyone On The Farm Here Actually LIKE Star Wars?

[NigelCumia]

The first one is fun, the second is a legitimate good movie, the third is derivative of the 2nd but they made it cutesy. I saw some of the prequels and they were trash and didn't watch a second of the Disney shit.

 

[866-Ron-0-Fez]

Alright bare with me. The OT will always be special to me as a connection to my dad. He died over 20 years ago now and the Disney stuff was the first time I thought to myself, I'm glad he's dead.

It also got me into writing and story telling. At least the comics did. Not the novels or the darkhorse comics, that came later....the original 80s comics that was just the movies in a comic book medium.

Like most comics it would have a page or two for the fans. Letters or drawing sent in, competitions and word searches...shit like that. They also had quizzes with the answers printed upside down. One quiz had a question that shaped little 866 for the rest of his life, 'When Vader and Luke met is Bespin, who sparks their lightsaber first.' It blew my mind. Firstly I didn't know and secondly the 8 year old me started to realise about concepts like character development, showing not telling a story, motivation etc. I stopped seeing stories as cool scenes that follow each other...but chain of cause and effect. This happened and then this happened' became 'this happened because this happened.'

I know Disney's star wars isn't aimed at me anymore so it's hard to trash it with critical analysis, but it lost that. It also lost the feel that costumes looked worn, sets looked lived in and dirty. Now everything looks brand new and clean. I know I sound dumb saying star wars doesn't seem real but the costume thing bothers me in most modern productions.

Anyways, Rays right. Check out the film's of Akira Kurosawa. Bye.

 

[ミスタースパーコル]

Was never into Star Wars. I grew up around the prequels release and while I saw them they never "scanned" for me, I never saw them as something special.
After Yidsney bought the franchise I found some torrents for the "Grindhouse" versions of the OT (pirate remastered made from old film prints) and watched them because I thought I needed to "know" Star Wars (a bone-headed and embarrassing move in hindsight. It didn't seem that dumb at the time. I wouldn't have bothered now.)
I think what stuck out to me most was how annoyed I was at the end of ROTJ when they kept switching back and forth between the fight with Sheev and the Ewock nonsense (there was like three conflicts going on at once). I only wanted to see one of those things and uninterrupted.

 

[Lamont & Tonelli]

One of my very first memories of any sort of media is seeing Luke land in Yoda's swamp on our 13" B&W TV and asking my mom what it was. I think I was three. "That's Star Wars" she replied, and I was all fawkin in...
...Until I walked out of the theater after Phantom Menace in 1999. The movie was fun while I watched it, but thinking about it later that day I realized that the podrace scene was cool and the rest of it was gibberish and poorly executed.
I saw whatever the last one was with a group of friends and I was the only person yelling "BOOO" at the screen when the credits rolled. PFG seeing the looks of horror on the faces of the assembled, like I stood up in the middle of Christmas Mass and called the baby Jesus a cocksucker.
I still think the first two hold up, and parts of Jedi are watchable.

 

[Will Tate]

I've made little secret of my own nerdish faggotry, I enjoyed the Star Wars films, all six of them. Disney Star Wars can eat my nuts. It's a relief, in a way, it makes it easier to put aside childish things, as they say, when those childish things are almost actively made to suck orders of magnitude worse than they ever did before.

 

[firstimelongtime]

Yes... It's the almost one thing that I have in common with Pat... but we'll get to that.

I'm a VERY big fan of the OT. Watched them since before I could understand what the dialogue remotely meant. It wasn't until my 20s until I figured out some of the plot points as it was mainly just long-familiar sounds being repeated. I have a full set of complete (well, missing 2 weapons) of the vintage figures overlooking me as I type this (in a custom case, colors based on the Kenner cardbacks), flanked by signed prints from Kim Simmons (who did the all of the product photography).

I have a gazillion copies of the OT movies from various sources, including the HD fan-edits (Despecialized) and the upscaled transfers (4K77, 4K83). I have the 4 ft Jabba's sail barge, and some really nice replica helmets.

I could go on. I fucking love Star Wars.

Like L&T, above, I walked out of TPM on a slight high. Until I thought about it for about a day. Didn't even see the next one in the theater (and wish that I never had. CGI couches? Space diner? Anti-smoking PSA - in space!?), and fell asleep during the 3rd.

I gave the Disney stuff a try, I really did. TFA was a remake of the original - bad guy in black mask rides around on a planet-killing moon machine looking for a charismatic robot holding super-important secrets, who is found by a reluctant orphan with unrealized power and destiny.

TLJ was a fucking abortion that I still cringe-remember little bits of. ROS was... ugh (Bollywood... in space!).

Rogue One was the only one that was truly "good" - but totally unnecessary.

The cartoons look retarded.

I didn't appreciate it as a kid, but scarcity is what made Star Wars special. That, and just taking shit at face value and not needing to over-explain it. Now it's just "product". It's soulless "content". It started in the grand 70s auteur era of Spielberg, Coppola, Kubrick, etc. Now it's a fucking disposable Saturday morning cartoon.

Anyone (Pat, and whomever goes to those Celebration events or would be in for a Tolkien-esque breakdown of Ughnaut culture) who uncritically accepts whatever vacant dogshit that they stamp the Star Wars brand on isn't a fan of Star Wars. If they were they'd fucking hate it. It's so cheap now.

What's funny is that it's all Lucas' fault. He had to go back and make more. He had to tweak with (flawed) excellence. He had to sell it.

(Time to stop dragging my heels and go out and do yard work...)

 

[Cyberatorquer]

"The Farm Here"?

 

[firstimelongtime]

Was never into Star Wars. I grew up around the prequels release and while I saw them they never "scanned" for me, I never saw them as something special.
After Yidsney bought the franchise I found some torrents for the "Grindhouse" versions of the OT (pirate remastered made from old film prints) and watched them because I thought I needed to "know" Star Wars (a bone-headed and embarrassing move in hindsight. It didn't seem that dumb at the time. I wouldn't have bothered now.)

If you do like them, the Despecialized versions are great. Total passion project of blending a zillion sources to create a high-def, super-clean presentation of the original movie, which neither Lucas nor Disney would ever give us.

 

[HH Brother]

They squandered a trillion dollars in profits, funster. All in the name of SJW gayness.

 

[DiarrheaDick]

>Anyone On The Farm Here

Calm down, faggot.

 

[UnPRePared]

I didn't appreciate it as a kid, but scarcity is what made Star Wars special.



What's funny is that it's all Lucas' fault. He had to go back and make more. He had to tweak with (flawed) excellence. He had to sell it.

You nailed it on both, especially your first point.

Stopping at three films made them special, and making more has diluted all of it. Even those shit prequels? They were still George's at least, while the new ones were a mess, and God damn, Force Awakens was story beat for beat The Hidden Fortress all over again, except I got to blame Abrams this time.

Lucas would have been looked back on much fonder if he never touched the old three and never did the prequels. Hell, I think he could have sold the IP for even MORE if he didn't do the former, the demand would be higher for something new.

And at the end of the day... Mark Hamill still has that fucked up face.

 

[firstimelongtime]

As an addendum, while my old-school love of it may sound very gate-keep-y, it's the opposite when it comes to Star Wars. If you don't unconditionally love everything that comes out, "you're doing it wrong". Corporate simps.

 

[AntSucks]

I played XWing as a kid, and that was my only knowledge of Star Wars. I watched them later as an adult, but I'm only ever nostalgic for the game.

 

[DeadWithoutMyDavid]

The first three are great and I liked a bunch of the video games in the early 2000s. It just lost it's mystique co-opted by fat man children.

 

[firstimelongtime]

I played XWing as a kid, and that was my only knowledge of Star Wars. I watched them later as an adult, but I'm only ever nostalgic for the game.

I’ve heard so many people gushing about that and TIE Fighter, but never played either. Not sure how I missed them. Maybe they came out during a time I wasn’t playing games.

The Rogue Squadron games for GameCube surprisingly hold up. And I only got one maybe 10 years ago.

 

[PogromStallone]

I do. The weird thing about SW is that the best stuff is in the side stuff. The Clone Wars show is better than any of the movies or other shows but every sees it as kiddie stuff because it animated, even though it's much more mature and darker than the live action stuff. The video games, before the Disney acquisition, were great.

 

[KaNAMBLA Harris]

When I was younger the Clone Wars was pfg

 

[ChimpanZ]

I do. The weird thing about SW is that the best stuff is in the side stuff. The Clone Wars show is better than any of the movies or other shows but every sees it as kiddie stuff because it animated, even though it's much more mature and darker than the live action stuff. The video games, before the Disney acquisition, were great.

Fawk yeah me and my brother watched this shit every Friday!!!

 

[TheNanaDook]

I've never quite seen what the fuss was myself.

Not to say I haven't watched some of them, I'm open minded enough to give mindless fun a hearty try. And I'll even give credit where it's due on Empire, it's a very solid story that's well directed (what a shock that Lucas handed it off to his film school teacher, Irvin Kirshner, and he completely showed him up).

But Return? The prequels? The new shit? (I've seen nothing past Force Awakens and you couldn't even threaten my mother to make me watch the TV Shows.) I do not see the appeal.

I would even go as far to say that Old Man Lucas was wise enough to see the limitations of his own IP, as well, hence why he was so relaxed about books being written by ACTUAL science fiction authors who could make up what the fuck they wanted, and basked in all the merch money he probably slept in.

Watching those prequels fifteen years ago during down time on tour, all I saw was a man desperately trying to tap into his young, starving artistry again, ultimately proving he had become more fixated on the technology of creating a world rather than NARRATIVELY creating one. The hubris and ego of "giving em what I think they want", just to piss all that goodwill away. And then Disney does the same fucking thing like a Confederacy of Dunces years later after paying the cunt billions for it.

I'm embarrassed I've put this much thought into it, but 1. I do love movies, and 2. I'm not like Pat who gobbles up Capitalist whiz-bang toys and shiny objects because it has an IP's name plastered over it, with money that isn't even his.

But I guess it's like Poetry... it rhymes.

The first 3 films are decent (Jedi is average, but passable). New hope + Empire are great. Everything after is shit. And it gets increasingly worse over time. The prequels are unwatchable (I tried to rewatch one time and couldn't make it through), despite the memes. And the sequels are borderline Saturday morning cartoonish trash. The shows are dogshit (Mandalorian season 1 was good, 2 was shit and 3 seems like a blooper reel). It will never be good again. I've stopped caring. Everyone else should too. Let Disney pump money into it and lose, they deserve it for trying to fag + woman up everything. It's over.

 

[Gay Faggot.]

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