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I want to start a thread about this, where interested people can debate big questions. I understand I ruin other threads doing it, so I’ll confine it here if people are interested. Some people are, and I enjoy talking to them.

If you don’t like that stuff, great, nobody is forcing you into this thread.

Something that’s bothering me, which I think is my overriding concern.

I’m serious about my faith, I grip on to it tightly and I’m terrified of God and answering for my life. I know what my actions mean and what they lead to, and although I’m gradually getting much better at mastering myself, I still act like a complete moody retard sinner often even though I know the price.

What the fuck is that? Am I weak? Is Satan that powerful? Can I keep repenting for the same sins and moving on like nothing happened? I’m trying to atone for them, does He know where I am and who I am and what my best efforts look like despite what I actually do?

I feel like if I repent and try to atone I shouldn’t regret anything or hold onto the guilt because that’s saying God hasn’t cleansed them and I have no faith, but if I don’t stop doing it is that just an excuse?

But talk about anything to do with God, faith, what the purpose of life is or whatever. Or don’t, just call me gay or ignore this and watch porn.
 
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Mankind has a fallen nature weakened (although not completely corrupted) by original sin, so it is inclined to commit sin due to something known as concupiscence.

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What it means is that we have a tendency towards sin and evil, but it still requires your consent to act on it. If you keep committing the same sins over and over again without the true desire to change your ways, it's probably a sign you aren't sincere in your attempt to repent and you won't receive absolution. But if you are making a sincere effort, even if you screw up, you will be forgiven because "the love of Christ surpasses all understanding." Forgiveness is probably the most central theme of the Gospels.
 
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Mankind has a fallen nature weakened (although not completely corrupted) by original sin, so it is inclined to commit sin due to something known as concupiscence.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concupiscence[/URL]

What it means is that we have a tendency towards sin and evil, but it still requires your consent to act on it. If you keep committing the same sins over and over again without the true desire to change your ways, it's probably a sign you aren't sincere in your attempt to repent and you won't receive absolution. But if you are making a sincere effort, even if you screw up, you will be forgiven because "the love of Christ surpasses all understanding." Forgiveness is probably the most central theme of the Gospels.
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Isaiah 43 breaks my heart and keeps me up at night. I realise God is my father and he grieves for me and I don’t do anything for Him in return for everything he’s done for me.

What do you think about the concept of the tithe? Giving 10% of your income back to God? I understand it’s not now a law as it was in the Old Testament but you should still recognise nothing you earn is really yours or because of you, and give to the church/others freely. I’d like to start giving away on a monthly schedule as I’m paid. I know my local churches would tell me it’s not expected but I should give what I can joyfully, but I’m interested what others think/do.
 
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Isaiah 43 breaks my heart and keeps me up at night. I realise God is my father and he grieves for me and I don’t do anything for Him in return for everything he’s done for me.

What do you think about the concept of the tithe? Giving 10% of your income back to God? I understand it’s not now a law as it was in the Old Testament but you should still recognise nothing you earn is really yours or because of you, and give to the church/others freely. I’d like to start giving away on a monthly schedule as I’m paid. I know my local churches would tell me it’s not expected but I should give what I can joyfully, but I’m interested what others think/do.
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They've gotta keep the lights on somehow. I pay people to do things that have no bearing on my salvation - why wouldn't I contribute to the church?
 
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Isaiah 43 breaks my heart and keeps me up at night. I realise God is my father and he grieves for me and I don’t do anything for Him in return for everything he’s done for me.

What do you think about the concept of the tithe? Giving 10% of your income back to God? I understand it’s not now a law as it was in the Old Testament but you should still recognise nothing you earn is really yours or because of you, and give to the church/others freely. I’d like to start giving away on a monthly schedule as I’m paid. I know my local churches would tell me it’s not expected but I should give what I can joyfully, but I’m interested what others think/do.
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Wasn't all that Jewish Law stuff abolished after Christ came and Christianity began? Why would you have to tithe? I'm being honest.
 
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They've gotta keep the lights on somehow. I pay people to do things that have no bearing on my salvation - why wouldn't I contribute to the church?
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Of course, I mean the amount to contribute, should we still tithe? A tenth of your income, does it mean post tax? I know I’m being pedantic and it’s not the point of giving but I’m still curious.

As I understand it, the tithe was our duty and giving was anything above that. I know it’s not the law now and there is a new way but it still feels an appropriate tradition to keep.

I’m still not informed or remotely righteous enough to understand which denomination to pledge myself to yet, it’s daunting. I know briefly about the 39 v 46 books of canon between Protestant and Catholic and I understand the belief that Christ pledged himself to his one true church and that instilled authority into the church, but it’s incredibly difficult to tolerate or accept the actions of the pope today.

It’s something I’ve resolved to park till I feel ready to jump into fully,I know how some would feel about that and they may be right, I just don’t know.
 
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Isaiah 43 breaks my heart and keeps me up at night. I realise God is my father and he grieves for me and I don’t do anything for Him in return for everything he’s done for me.

What do you think about the concept of the tithe? Giving 10% of your income back to God? I understand it’s not now a law as it was in the Old Testament but you should still recognise nothing you earn is really yours or because of you, and give to the church/others freely. I’d like to start giving away on a monthly schedule as I’m paid. I know my local churches would tell me it’s not expected but I should give what I can joyfully, but I’m interested what others think/do.
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I give (not 10% lol) to the smaller parishes that actually need it. It's not something I've given a lot of thought to, but even though they get tax breaks, it still costs a lot of money to operate. Plus they often have free events and stuff for the kids to do where they can make friends that (generally speaking) have parents that are well adjusted and not creeps. The money doesn't seem like it should be the central focus, but it is necessary to keep things running.
 
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Wasn't all that Jewish Law stuff abolished after Christ came and Christianity began? Why would you have to tithe? I'm being honest.
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I kind of answered above, it isn’t the law but it seems a good and appropriate tradition to uphold regardless of duty.

I basically subscribe to the CS Lewis view that you should give so you aren’t used to the same luxuries and conveniences of people in your economic bracket, but I wouldn’t be opposed to formalising a payment system, not because I must or because I’m trying to buy points with the lord but because it’s a good habit to keep. What the church does with it isn’t my concern, only He can judge.
 
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I knew posting this thread that if anybody replied it would largely be to call me gay and post revolting porn, which is cool and everything but I also know there are like minded people I can learn from and that’s much cooler.

I know the juxtaposition between posting in the nigger hate thread and being the way I am and then also posting about righteousness, I know I shouldn’t use the internet at all for my own good but hey, I’m only human.
 
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