How quickly would have Ukraine fallen to Russia if they didn't have complete support from the US?

[aRTie02150]

It's pretty annoying when you look at comments on videos and articles about a Ukraine counteroffensive talking about how tough strong and resilient the county is.

I personally think that without US help, Ukraine would have been toppled within 2 or 3 weeks.

 

[Not Child.]

Bro, the Russians would blitkrieg to Madrid Spain if the Americans weren't in the picture

Ukraine is just retarded enough to be a human shield for the less retarded Euros.

 

[Former Prez Gerald Ford]

I REALLY hope these two don’t get their hiney holes stretched by Wagner group mercenaries. Genuinely. I’d tell you if I did.

 

[Turry]

I'm no geopolitical expert but I'm going to say six months

 

[JoeCumiawearsDIAPERS]

Pretty fast, although a lot less people would be dead

Edit - I realize I’m taking a gigantic leap of faith here

 

[Petworth dude]

The war would have started out the same, with the Russians failing to take Kyiv. The war would probably still be in a stalemate, but the Russians would control a lot more territory. Without US aid, the Ukrainians would have never been successful with their counteroffensives in the Kharkiv and Kherson oblasts, and they wouldn't have been able to hold off the Russians in the east, meaning Moscow would have gained complete control of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts by now.

The Ukies finally got F-16s this week, which is a big deal.

Pretty fast, although a lot less people would be dead

Not if you count civilians in conquered territories. Remember Bucha? We'd see situations like that, but much more common, and on a march larger scale. Government employees, former military personnel, people deemed loyal to Kyiv, etc. would be rounded up. Some would get to go home, while others would be going to gulags (enjoy prison, hohols), resettled, or executed. This shit already happened in the cities of Luhansk and Donetsk when the Russians first invaded back in 2014.

 

[Imager]

If Russia had invaded in 2016 or 2018, they would have likely dominated quickly. But they waited, expecting to fight the Ukraine army of 2018 in 2022.

That's what I heard anyways.

 

[Not Child.]

The war would have started out the same, with the Russians failing to take Kyiv. The war would probably still be in a stalemate, but the Russians would control a lot more territory. Without US aid, the Ukrainians would have never been successful with their counteroffensives in the Kharkiv and Kherson oblasts, and they wouldn't have been able to hold off the Russians in the east, meaning Moscow would have gained complete control of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts by now.

The Ukies finally got F-16s this week, which is a big deal.


Not if you count civilians in conquered territories. Remember Bucha? We'd see situations like that, but much more common, and on a march larger scale. Government employees, former military personnel, people deemed loyal to Kyiv, etc. would be rounded up. Some would get to go home, while others would be going to gulags (enjoy prison, hohols), resettled, or executed. This shit already happened in the cities of Luhansk and Donetsk when the Russians first invaded back in 2014.

F-16s did shit in Syria. If the Americans had their way, Puti and Assad would be in he Hague for War Crimes (remember the fake Ghouta gas attacks?), but because Russia demonstrated superior weaponry, that POS Assad is still in Syria, It (American Military hardware inferiority) what made the Russians go for Crimea and then be on the offensive.

"F-16s game changer" is fucking RETARDED, just as retarded as Patrick's waterballoon comment.