“Fossil fuels” aren’t real, or scarce.

[NoBacon]

Oil is a natural mineral that the Earth produces constantly. We will never run out of it.

If it was as scarce as they claim, the oil companies would be the main people pushing alternatives as soon as possible.

 

[T-t-t-Terry!]

They've found the shit in space but on quora they rush to assure anybody who asks that it's not "petroleum" because it wasn't formed in a process that we assume (but never observed) to have happened on earth. So yeah like asteroids and Titan are full of it but it's not the real stuff even if it's chemically indistinguishable.

IFLS

 

[We Have Everything]

Why is so much of it concentrated in the Persian Gulf? Why would a naturally occurring substance concentrate in particular places? Why if this is the truth, enrich greedy Muslim oil sheikhs who will finance the profits with jihadism? etc etc.

Cute theory though, I want to believe...

 

[Africa.com]

It's not scarce. Our ability to refine the poor quality stuff has grown by leaps and bounds, as has the ability to get it out of the ground. As far as them not being real, you're a retard

 

[T-t-t-Terry!]

Why would a naturally occurring substance concentrate in particular places?

This question can also apply to the theory that it's due to the breakdown of living matter so what's your point?

 

[NoBacon]

Why is so much of it concentrated in the Persian Gulf? Why would a naturally occurring substance concentrate in particular places? Why if this is the truth, enrich greedy Muslim oil sheikhs who will finance the profits with jihadism? etc etc.

Cute theory though, I want to believe...

it’s probably a political thing and an economic thing, Ricketfeller made more money transporting oil than producing it.

I dunno but I know it’s not made from dead dinosaurs and fish. Pure retard mode idea.

 

[Africa.com]

it’s probably a political thing and an economic thing, Ricketfeller made more money transporting oil than producing it.

I dunno but I know it’s not made from dead dinosaurs and fish. Pure retard mode idea.

Gee refining oil has lower margins than literally laying railroad track and using them for decades with minimal upkeep costs while raping your competitors to use the track, that's crazy

 

[T-t-t-Terry!]

it’s probably a political thing and an economic thing, Ricketfeller made more money transporting oil than producing it.

I dunno but I know it’s not made from dead dinosaurs and fish. Pure retard mode idea.

No you don't get it. The constituent chemicals that make up living organisms didn't exist until after muh abiogenesis and muh evolution happened. They were spontaneously generated afterward. There's no way that carbon and hydrogen could just encounter each other in nature. Do you know how rare they are?

 

[NoBacon]

Gee refining oil has lower margins than literally laying railroad track and using them for decades with minimal upkeep costs while raping your competitors to use the track, that's crazy

Do you believe in dinosaurs? Do you think they made all the oil? Do you believe in space and moon bases?

Boy, these crazy zealots and their ridiculous ideas!

 

[T-t-t-Terry!]

Do you believe in dinosaurs? Do you think they made all the oil? Do you believe in space and moon bases?

Boy, these crazy zealots and their ridiculous ideas!

If you'd just argue one point it wouldn't be so easy to fuck your shit up

 

[Farmer Brown]

Coal is a fossil fuel. It's real.

Retard.

 

[We Have Everything]

Nobacon we have gnostic niggas who will earnestly talk about this shit but you don't want that you wanna cavort with sassters.

 

[NoBacon]

Nobacon we have gnostic niggas who will earnestly talk about this shit but you don't want that you wanna cavort with sassters.

Gnostics are heretics, boqster

 

[T-t-t-Terry!]

Coal is a fossil fuel. It's real.

Retard.

I don't often defend @NoBacon but he clearly meant that hydrocarbons aren't produced from the decaying bodies of algae and dinosaurs, not that gas and coal doesn't exist.

 

[NoBacon]

I don't often defend @NoBacon but he clearly meant that hydrocarbons aren't produced from the decaying bodies of algae and dinosaurs.

Yeah but he already knew that. It’s arguing like this;

Claim: “We should improve public transportation to reduce traffic congestion and pollution.”

Response: “Actually, you said ‘reduce traffic,’ but technically, buses are traffic too. So your point doesn’t hold up.”

 

[T-t-t-Terry!]

Seriously though @NoBacon stop trying to argue about nebulous conspiracies and stick to the logical problems with shit like this. Hydrogen and carbon are numbers one and four most common elements in the universe. Hydrocarbons have been observed where no life could have plausibly ever existed. How are we so sure that the hydrocarbons we observe on earth weren't just formed by whatever process causes it to happen elsewhere?

We can even grant that some of the existing petroleum on earth does come from the breakdown of dead organisms. So what? How do we distinguish that from spontaneous synthesis if we're operating under an unjustified starting assumption?

Or go on about the Jews some more whatever

 

[NoBacon]

Seriously though @NoBacon stop trying to argue about nebulous conspiracies and stick to the logical problems with shit like this. Hydrogen and carbon are numbers one and four most common elements in the universe. Hydrocarbons have been observed where no life could have plausibly ever existed. How are we so sure that the hydrocarbons we observe on earth weren't just formed by whatever process causes it to happen elsewhere?

We can even grant that some of the existing petroleum on earth does come from the breakdown of dead organisms. So what? How do we distinguish that from spontaneous synthesis if we're operating under an unjustified starting assumption?

Or go on about the Jews some more whatever

“NASA's Cassini spacecraft found that Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all of Earth's known oil and natural gas reserves. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky and collect in lakes and dunes”

If oil were discovered on other planets or asteroids then logically it might not necessarily come from fossils or organic life. Instead, it could form through abiotic processes—chemical reactions involving carbon and hydrogen deep within a planet’s crust or mantle.

I mean it’s not really that different to diamonds, which aren’t rare or scarce and can be created in labs, but the industry maintains a monopoly and acts as if it’s scarce and super valuable, I think it just appeals to poetic space man lovers to say dinosaurs power our cars.

 

[T-t-t-Terry!]

“NASA's Cassini spacecraft found that Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all of Earth's known oil and natural gas reserves. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky and collect in lakes and dunes”

If oil were discovered on other planets or asteroids then logically it might not necessarily come from fossils or organic life. Instead, it could form through abiotic processes—chemical reactions involving carbon and hydrogen deep within a planet’s crust or mantle.

I mean it’s not really that different to diamonds, which aren’t rare or scarce and can be created in labs, but the industry maintains a monopoly and acts as if it’s scarce and super valuable

Yes thank you for laying out the argument right after me

 

[We Have Everything]

@NoBacon

 

[NoBacon]

Yes thank you for laying out the argument right after me

You’re welcome